jean thomas, i'm a retired city employee.e honor and privilege of being the chair of the committee with the retired employees of the scoint city any of san francisco. i'm not speaking on their behalf but i do follow these what goes on at the retirement board consistently and write it up. and i have to concentrate or otherwise when you put something in writing if you don't do it right you look real stupid. i wonder what kind of world i live in when i read this report. and particularly i was struck by recommendation 5 as the lower risk of recommendation for investment. wouldn't be able to pay anybody's lunch. so i really feel that the grand jury -- i'm sure they're experiencing great pain today, but in the future, if they go into something like this, they should include, in their group of people with whom they talk and discuss, people who understand some basic ideas ofdv risk and of particularly risk and have a professional background in it. thank you very much. >> supervisor elsbernd: thank you. not yet. mr. yep. and any other

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