jean-michel would join us, and we would have good meals here on the regular.e and they have the exact same food. come on, this is it. >> anthony: still the same? >> freddy: still exactly the same. >> anthony: that's encouraging. >> freddy: which is great, it's great. ♪ >> anthony: you brought hip-hop culture to a very finite number of people initially on the lower east side. totally changed the world. ♪ >> freddy: teenagers at that time were doing something interesting so i wanted to find some people that would listen to these ideas, and that's what led me to the lower east side, and to connect with -- >> anthony: i guess you met glenn o'brien. >> freddy: glenn o'brien, yup. >> glenn: hi, and welcome to "tv party". fred, why don't you tell us a little about what the holy land looks like? >> freddy: i want you to know. that i've been to the holy land. and the holy land is so funky. it's funky. and through that connection is where i met all these people that listened to all these ideas i had, and that was david byrne, chris stein, and debbie harry, and so many a