tell the truth freely, the wife of rw wells, white image in black minds, among her books, the jeanette p nichols professor of american history at the university of pennsylvania. please join me in welcoming mia bay and raymond arsenault, them up on screen. >> welcome, so great to have you this evening. we want you to take the show away and enjoy the conversation, thanks for seeing you. >> thank you, jennifer, thanks to the mark twain housing museum. i actually read mia bay's new book and manuscript. it was extraordinary then but to see it in hardcover with a beautiful cover is even more exciting, an amazing piece of work, and happy to give it, such an amazing book, i quote myself, a stunning achievement, an understanding of the character and importance of segregated travel. that is an understatement. this is an amazing book. i wish i had it when i was doing the freedom ride. we were re-creating the freedom ride somewhere in north carolina as college students, great to see this. the first question i have is you did the book on ida b wells and a book on white image of the black mind and many other