. >> jimmy: shaq, did you hear what jeanie buss said?est lakers of all time. >> yes. >> jimmy: you were not on that list. she said kobe, kareem, magic, lebron and phil jackson. >> got it. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: jerry west was very upset about it. he made a comment about it. how about you? how do you feel about that? >> he definitely should have been on the list. look, i love the buss family. i love jeanie buss. she has always been a woman who speaks her mind. that's her opinion. i'm just glad to have been able to win three championships, have a lovely statue in front of staple center. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: wow, you've become very -- you've really matured over the years, shaq. >> thanks. i have. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: obviously, kobe was inducted into the hall of fame over the weekend. i see you got some pictures there behind you. [ cheers and applause ] >> yes. >> jimmy: you and kobe together. you got one there. now kobe, obviously you guys had some ups and downs, but you ended as friends. and i -- kobe told me a story once,