this was going on in the '80s with jeanne kirkpatrick. she couldn't get a word out. >> if you told me in 1964 that this would become liberty, not freedom, that bullies would be allowed to have their free-speech and suppress the other speakers, if you had told me that the most prominent successful may be even effective but certainly a person, i went to hear a nazi. i would have loved to hear condoleezza rice, but she couldn't appear on campus because the bullies had taken over. >> laura: by the way, we are showing some of your photos th y >> laura: you were inside she's mild-mannered, mainstream republican. everyone thinks this is about trump.el this was going on in the '80s with jeanne kirkpatrick. she couldn't get a word out. >> if you told me in 1964 that this would become liberty, not freedom, that bullies would be allowed to have their free-speech and suppress the other speakers, if you had told me that the most prominent successful may be even effective but certainly a person, i went to hear a nazi. i would have loved to hear condole

this was going on in the '80s with jeanne kirkpatrick. she couldn't get a word out. >> if you told me in 1964 that this would become liberty, not freedom, that bullies would be allowed to have their free-speech and suppress the other speakers, if you had told me that the most prominent successful may be even effective but certainly a person, i went to hear a nazi. i would have loved to hear condoleezza rice but she couldn't appear on campus because the bullies had taken over. >> laura: by the way, we are showing some of your photos that you took. what were you, 19, 18 years old? how old are you? >> i was 20. >> laura: you were inside the hall at the point and you were taking these. >> i think i was the only one who know how to take tri- x film and push it to nasa of 1,000. i got all these photos. i've never seen any other photos taken inside sprawl hall. they are all online. >> laura: unbelievable. we really appreciate your coming on, professor. your voice. you were there. you covered it. you knew the people that organized so much of it a