i put jeb bush more in a bush 41 mode, sort of a throw back to the republican party in the 1980s. i think if lake wins in arizona then you're going to hear a lot of conversation about desantis and kari lake as the alternative to a donald trump should something be fall the trump candidacy we're all expecting to come. >> it would be a fascinating turn of events to see. great to have you this morning, michael smerconish. >> nice to see you. >>> donald trump's or uncle sam's? the justice department and the former president are split whether records belong to donald trump or the federal government. a new court filing claiming 15 of nearly 22,000 documents have disputed executive privilege claims and asking the special master to rule on this. these are documents on clemency requests and documentation related to border control laws. >>> and steve bannon will be sentenced for defying a subpoena from the january 6th committee. federal prosecutors are recommending a six month sentence for bannon, also pushing back on a request to delay serving any sentence while his appeal of the conviction

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former governor jeb bush is calling out leaders for letting test scores plummet.the scope and scale of this problem? >> it's a disaster. i guess it should be expected that if you spend two years out of the classroom in many cases, we had a problem before and it has gotten a loss worse. this should be a call to arms. we should put aside the hyper partisanship that dominates life in washington and realize this really is important that kids learn how to read and learn how to calculate math in allowing them to live a life of purpose and meaning. right now it's at risk. lots of things could be done. >> dana: i read something this weekend any kid trying to learn algebra by zoom didn't get it. and that affects you for the rest of your life. >> and pre-algebra as well. we don't have in elementary schools, we don't have teachers that know how to teach math. we basically had a system where we haven't trained enough math teachers at an early age. we should change that. we have drops in reading where it's clear we need to start at an early age to identify the challenges that

and, you know, they published it as like, you know, jeb bush is going to be pushing the big gay agendatim miller as the communications director and then jeb starts getting all these calls from the christian conservative types. and i hadn't even i only met him one time when this happened. like, i just got hired. it was the first day. and so we had this really awkward conversation and it was one of those where i was like, jeff, i, you know, i'm going to do it. and it takes two to help you in any. and he said, i get, i get it. and you know that i don't. and i just interrupted him. i was like, i know we're good. and he said, all i need from you is i need for you this to do one thing. and i was like, okay, what is it? he goes, call ralph reed. okay, i'll call ralph reed. and so, you know, anyway, the point being like looking back on that, it's like if the most important things in my life are in the back there, my husband and my child and i was willing to work for people that wanted to bind into law, denying me that now all of a sudden i don't know if empathy is the right word, but understan

that was, talking about gay pride parades and making fun of homophobes and stuff like that, and jeb bush is going to be pushing the big gay agenda with tim miller as the communication director and jeb is getting the calls from the conservative types and i'd only met him one time when it happened. i just got hard, the first day and there was an awkward situations and jeb, i'm going to do it and take-- ments i get it, i get it. you know i don't-- ments and i said we're good. >> and i said all i need for you to do one thing, and i said what is it, he said call ralph reed. okay, i'll call ralph reed. and so, you know, anyway, the point being, like looking back on that, it's like, the most important things in my life are my must and child and i was willing to work for people wanting to bind into law denying me that. and i don't know if empathy, but understanding of the trump's people's mental jujitsu, if i could compartmentize that for the good of the team and the good of my yob even though if affects me personally, imagine now easy, i'm going to do what's good for my career, i don't know any

we were doing a focus group in new hampshire in 2016 when i was working for jeb bush's super pac , and we were trying to get voters to move off donald trump and onto jeb bush and we were presenting all the information. two voters in the group were undecided. they cannot figure out what that should be voting for donald trump or bernie sanders. [laughter] >> these are confuse people. mr. newhouse: no, they are not confused. it is almost like they are so extreme they meet at the other end. there is something about that message. >> well, the similarity is stick it to the man. whoever the man is. that is the common theme. voters have been told in billions of dollars of campaign ads over the years that the system is broken corrupt and you ought to bust it up, so maybe that is not as surprising as it sounds. mr. newhouse: no, that may not a majority of americans said the system is corrupt in terms of the economic, political system, and it's not just african-americans and hispanics, it is whites, low education. i did some data the other day, since 2012, i did met romney's campaign in 2012, the

jeb bush is a governor of florida. hillary clinton as a senator, first lady. before that, that's number one. right. and often in these races, as steve mentioned, it is about change when you're an incumbent it's a tough thing to how do you say more of the same while still being for change, but i think what happened in the 21st century and this particularly in hindsight on my part, it doesn't me that brilliant is that the country went through an attack on its own soil for the first time since the war of 1812. we were at war in afghanistan we were at war in iraq. the iraq war in particular did not go well until it finally did go well. we suffered what refer to as the great recession that came very close to being a worldwide catastrophic depression. and people began to look at institutions and all of the smart state women that we had been electing, at least for most of my lifetime. and they thought to themselves, people aren't so smart. i've been voting for the people supposed to vote for. and i don't mean this in a sense of somebody told me what to do people were

friends that i was working with but they went after me talk about gay pride parade and homophobes in jeb bush pushes the big gay agenda so jeb took in all the calls from the christianti conservative ties i only met him one time. it was the first day so we had a very awkward conversation. but you know that i don't and i interrupted him i said we are good. i just need you to do one thing. [laughter] so the point being that looking back the most important thing in my life is my husband and my child so to deny me that now i don't know if empathy is the right word but understanding of the trump people if i could compartmentalize that even though this affects me personally to say i will do what's good for my career. i don't know any people on the border. mean tweets who will they hurt? it is hypothetical and then becomes much easier to rationalize. >> this books incredibly well rendered. [laughter] with some fascinating people from american politics and then you cannot it from this vantage point he really have people's number in a way to stay in character if they don't have your background or exper

tolliver, appeared -- to miller, contributor to the bulwark, and former communications director for jeb bush wrote the new book, why we didn't. tim, awhile back, you called this economy annoying. people don't like the high prices, they're struggling with, them but there is still willing to pay them. do you think high prices are gonna drive people to the polls? >> well, i think it's getting annoyed again, stephanie, there's time in the summer of gaza places were coming down it wasn't quite is in the face some other disruptions to the workplace for getting better if you go to a local coffee shop there is a period of time when there would only be one breeze to, working why am i waiting these long lines, what is everything cost more, and these are first world problems of, course but skype something people deal with day in a day out, and they want to punish the party that's in charge, if their paycheck isn't going as far as it used to. if everything they have to do is kind of a pain in the butt. and so i think that now we're seeing that again, as gas prices begin to come back on the rise, and we

pages two on —- paid his dues was in congress agriculture commissioner had all the supporters even jeb busheverything was lined up to be the governor of florida in 2018. what did ron desantis do? he went on e fox news every day it seems like. he just went on fox. they want to see you at gator wrestling or whatever they do. whateverra florida's version of the dinner is that's what they want to seeig it's about being local. ron desantis did not do any of that and he crushed it. he crushed the primary and he was right. the high saturation of fox among the republican base especially in florida where fox does very well it beats the local news. fox beats the local and national news and some markets in florida. so that saturation paid off. now that is a different kind of thing. people talk about the fox primary on the' republican side. it's not as powerful as fox supporters and detractors say cannot deny the potency and how much of a part in how powerful fox has to be. >> so tell us why you think it is a bad idea for c-span2 put cameras in congress and why it's bad for the supreme court and if you

jeb bush made a great point, the world we're moving toward requires significantly higher skills to be. makes you concerned for the future. our kids will follow this generation and what is going to happen with that, something to think about, we'll bring in stephanie butler, a michigan mom of four will join me to discuss this. i want to get your initial reaction to these new numbers. >> well, i would love to say i'm surprised, but with everything going on in the world, i am not surprised by this nation's report card this morning. >> ashley: you pulled your youngest kid out of public school during the pandemic how did this affect your youngest child and are they doing better since you pulled them out >> there was two i pulled from elementary school and put them in private school. i can't even begin to explain the difference. my daughter joined cheerleading. she was getting bullied in public school. my son is learning cursive and coding in school. it is staggering, they are getting a good education and i rather go out and break my back and give them a good education than i saw what was ha

it just in general like ask psychologically impact of all this jeb bush sitting there shaking his head? get out of town, why weren't they calling out teachers unions with weingarten ilk on multicity bus tour. >> hob calling out doj liz calling parents stream terrorists when they had nerve to get involved with what was taught to kids. >> jake tapper knows very well why not a louder conversation on this topic a teachers unions fund democrats to the tune of tens of millions of dollars every election cycle they are also extremely important in getting out the vote and right now, the number one thing that democrats need in cities like new york, states where really worried about losing their edge is getting out the vote no one is going to urban the on teachers unions, or, by the way, our health authorities, who helped basically shut down the country. as dagen said, there was no science, and to promote the idea that teachers and kids should be kept home from school, in sweden never closed the schools had absolutely. >> discertainble negative impact people question whole authoritarian regime of

hear anyone from my party, except liz cheney cheney talking about fiscal responsibility or even jeb bush about a real immigration plan. what a short opinion on how we get out of this because right now i am -- what is your opinion on how to get out of this because right now i am going to go against my party? guest: that is a good question. i do not have a good solution. i think you are really right in terms of identifying a shift within the republican party. it's is shift has happened among democrats to especially among republicans. you look at an event where there used to be a roast focus -- a real focus on responsibility language and now it is all about cultural grievances and identity and demonizing the other side. it is all about creating a motivation to the base. not from those what we used to call kitchen table issues. i think you might have to see a reset before you see those issues come back to the forefront. but i will say is the midterm elections might be that reset. when you have an issue like inflation soaring to the top of the agenda and when you have two parties who are real

. >> ashley: jeb bush said we need higher skills to succeed in the way the world is going so it really makes you concerned for the future of these kids and when you think back to the pandemic, you are a future mom. i'm not a mother but we were kids in school will. we know how hard it was to navigate through life at that point. but my question is who is going to say who is responsible for this, step up. what are we going to do to solve this problem. i do want to take a listen at this, it's the angry parents. >> carley: listen to this and we'll talk about it. >> students are not meeting those basic benchmarks in math and et cetera. for covid, there are two years of learning loss. no one can knight it. >> i got smacked to the face and bagby's was to reopen our school. our kids are struggling for they said don't care. vehicle i want to make sure that my scoreboard >> i want to make sure that myss of education and the harm they cause over the last two years needs to be fixed. the eagle obviously the school boards once they realize what was going on back to california, when they try to do aw

he had all the correct supporters jeb bush everything lined up for adam putnam to be the governor of florida in 2018. what did ron desantis do? he went on "fox news" every day it seems like that he was there and he just went -- under the old thinking this was a big mistake because people want it to be in their community and they want to see you as the gator wrestling or whatever florida's version of the west virginia being dinner is that's what they want to see and it's all that stuff. ron desantis didn't do any of that and he crushed that primary. the high saturation of fox among the republican base particularly in florida where fox does very well beats the local news. fox beats the local news in the national news in the markets in florida. that saturation that they went for. off. that's a different thing. that's a different kind of thing. people talk about the fox primary on the republican side and i don't think it's what it's cracked up to be proud of think its is powerful as fox's supporters and detractors said that you can't deny its potency and how much of a part of any republi

think previous governor jeb bush who handled so many storms so well that he was nicknamed governor hurricane rick scott who rode the storm there to become a regular weather channel. during katrina, bobby jindal grew to such prominence he was elected governor. think george h.w. bush who 1992 loss was partly blamed to insufficient response to hurricane andrew. or any number of city lawmakers from bloomberg. and katrina to bush's doing a heck of a job and kathleen blanco who didn't even run for re-election. there are apgs comblik economic that come from the federal government. after hurricane sandy in 2012, chris christie famously embraced president obama and paid a political price. joining me a professor of political economy at stamford graduate school of business. among his field of expertise. voting and the politics of natural disasters. dr. malhotra which is more, the response? >> what we found, politicians are known for sending in the cavalry after the disaster takes place but really basically never prepares in advance and this creates bad incentives this goes against two benjamin frank ly

. >> former florida governor jeb bush.ce that, you know, get ready to get knocked around. >> you've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals. your twitter account-- >> only rosie o'donnell. >> trump becomes immediately defensive and then goes right on the attack. >> honestly megyn, if you don't like it, i'm sorry. i've been very nice to you, although i could probably maybe not be, based on the way you have treated me, but i wouldn't do that. but you know what-- >> it was, i thought that trump got the better of it. the megan kelly dust-up was an early test of whether trump could kind of brazen those kind of attacks out, which he did. >> and i think this creates this really interesting situation for rupert murdoch. because, when your first debate of the primary cycle gets 24 million viewers, blowing the roof off any record in cable news history, there's something going on here. >> the questions to me i think were much tougher than the questions to anybody else. >> why do you think that was? >

but the issue is, like, you -- any bush, right, george bush, jeb bush, painting of a burning bush, anyn to he ohio for the republicans. the fact that jd vance decided the only reason he wants to hold on to ohio is by crawling up alongside the cult leader donald trump, that's the troubling existential crisis. he doesn't need to do that to hold on to ohio. he wants to do that to hold on to ohio. >> jd vance is one among many counted in the great emasculation of the republican party by donald trump. you won't even stand up for your wife, you know, unless you would offend donald trump. and more importantly, his voters, you don't want to offend or lose his voters. and let's be clear about who the republican party jd vance included is bending over backwards to appease. white nationalists, qanon crowd, the conspiracy theorists. this is not the crowd that you should be aiming at. this crowd should be jetsoned and instead they're jetsoning the good conservatives. they are the problem with the party. and, you know, it is obvious for mitch mcconnell's nonanswer answer he doesn't want to change th

tomorrow we'll talk to former florida governor jeb bush. we have not seen much of him since the 2016 presidential campaign. we got a lot to talk to him about in terms of education, hisses passion, and the many issues facing schools, students, pains, teachers today, covid, book banning, affirmative action in college admissions being debated in the supreme court. our coverage now continues with the rad laura coates and the totally awesome alisyn camerota. >> hey, jake. >> hello, i think the '80s called. >> that was the theme. '80s theme. >> i like that a lot. thank you, dashing jake. >> thank you very much. >> thanks, guys. >> see you. hello, everyone. this is cnn not to, i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm laura coates. we're 20 days away from the all-important midterm elections. with key races around the nation tightening up, especially those that will decide who controls the senate. now, there's this question. look, while he's not on the ballot, how much of a factor is the former president donald trump in how americans will actually vote? >> liste

and tim miller is here, contributor to the -- and former communications director for jeb bush. he is author of the new book, why we did it. amy, clearly this scandal is like a car crash that won't end. it keeps hitting the brick wall over and over. but what is going to have more impact on the georgia race? these scandals that walker is having or the actual debate friday night? >> i think the scandals really do matter. i mean, at the end of the day, i have to say that a lot of voters don't watch the debates, even though we might watch them nationally. so, here is the thing, in the age of trump, we have seen that for the republican party, policy does not really matter. conservative principles don't really matter. and now, we are seeing that character, basic character and competence, just does not matter. the only thing that matters is genuflect-ing to donald j trump and the bottom line is, we don't need any more of these folks getting into office who have been endorsed by donald trump. it is literally a threat to our democracy. >> and tim, who is the georgia voter? these scandals

jake will speak with former republican presidential candidate jeb bush, exclamation point. that's tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. you can follow me on twitter @johnberman or tweet the show @theleadcnn. our coverage continues now with wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >>> happening now, fighting intensifies in southern ukraine right now as russia resorts to desperate measures to try to hold the front line. vladimir putin inspecting his troops and firing a rifle himself in a new wartime show of force. also this hour president biden is in the critical midterm battleground state of pennsylvania touting infrastructure spending as many voters are stressed out about inflation and the economy. i'll ask former treasury secretary larry summers for his up to the minute assessment of the recession threat. and new turmoil right now in britain after the prime minister liz truss abruptly announces her resignation after six short but troubled weeks in power. we'll get a read on the instability and what it means for the uk and the world. welcome to our viewers here in th

tomorrow when it talk to jeb bush we have not seen much of him since the 2016 presidential campaign. we've got a lot to talk to him about many issues facing students teachers schools these days. book banning, affirmative action, as being debated in front of the supreme court, that's a 9 pm eastern. our coverage now covers with the rad allison laura coats, and he totally awesome alison camera. hey there. that was the theme. >> i like that a lot >> for everyone as a santa night i'm alison camera am laura coates. >> we're 20 days away from the all-important midterm elections with key races around the nation tightening up, especially those who decide who controls the senate. though he's not on the ballot, how much of a factor is the former president donald trump in how americans will vote? >> there are significant developments and, a lot is percolating right now. here are just some of the headlines in the course of just a few hours. this is from cnn politics exclusive. trump considers allowing federal investigators to search mar-a-lago. again a federal john which says trump signed legal

jeb bush was right.dvanced notion that that nation's record card would have bummer grades for us. a remindser that we have to do something and fast because post covid, we're not back, not close to being back where we are. jeff flock following it from philadelphia. this is something that we expected but not expecting this bad. >> this is one of those report cards, neil, that if you brought this one to your italian father when you were a kid, he would spank you. take a look at the numbers. it's not pretty. math and reading. fourth graders and eighth graders tested. in no instance in any state in the union was there an improvement. all the scores were down. 2019 compared to now. if you drill down a little further, for example, eighth graders, math, it was 34% proficient. a third of students proficient in math in 2019. it's now down to below 30%. a lot of people blame the pandemic lockdowns and the length of them. the education secretary today responding to that. miguel cardona. >> this is not a red and blui

jeb bush, rick scott, marco rubio, donald trump, ron desantis. so i don't think it's something that sways -- that influences the way people vote. >> i was thinking about this. some democrats are pointing out that ron desantis did not commit to a full term, congressman. he didn't raise nine figures to be re-elected just as governor of florida. right? that's what his voters expect in 2024, he'll run for president. did charlie crist do anything to turn around this race? >> i don't think he did. all ron desantis had to do is make no errors. i don't think he made any errors. and by the way, politicians are ambitious. this is hardly surprising to the general public. the fact that he might run for president, i don't think is going to make a lick of difference in this gubernatorial race. so, i mean, people expect that of politicians. i don't think that's a very effective issue to smack desantis on. yeah, he's going to run for president. but so what? >> ana, if you're like most other people you'll be watching the other debate tonight in pennsylvania betwe

. >> laura: we had jeb bush over on cnn tonight, he popped up.mike pence was asked about this issue yesterday. watch. >> kevin mccarthy, who wants to become the next speaker of the house has said if republicans take the gavel, that america will no longer be a blank check for the war on ukraine. do you take issue with that? >> you know, the united states throughout our history has understood that we need to be the leader of the free world. that includes being the arsenal of democracy. we need to continue to support the people of ukraine as they fight for their defense. >> laura: congressman, i feel like i'm in a time warp. the arsenal of democracy. first of all our munitions are horribly depleted, we can't recruit enough people for an army. we're in big trouble militarily, woke, funding woke programs for dei. >> that's right, a report released this week showed the weaknesses in our military is the greatest in my lifetime. so to lead through peace through strength to rebuild the military and have a strong military that deters our adversaries is the

it just in general like ask psychologically impact of all this jeb bush sitting there shaking his head weren't they calling out teachers

we talked to jeb bush be the former governor of florida today on fox. he said what can i say?'s a disaster. i guess it should be expected if you spend two years out of the classroom in many cases, we had a problem before and it has gotten a lot worse. so this should be a call to arms. reporter: david, if you take a look this report didn't specifically address the lockdowns but if you look at them, the report says in high poverty areas much worse performance. well those high poverty areas had 22 weeks on average of lost learning. low poverty areas about 13 weeks. and so you know, you do the math, pardon the pun, you do the math on that yourself. if you had brought this report card home to your dad, i suspect, david, he might have given you a spanking. david: i was going to say, i would have to put a book in my pants in order to prevent it from hurting too much. jeff, thanks very much. that was a trick we used back in those days. no advice to my grandson. here to dive deeper into all of this, darla romfo president of the children's scholarship fund. they provide scholarships to

republican strategist mike murphy who has advised republican candidates including john mccain and jeb bush and mitt romney. he is co-host of hats on tap podcast. i need -- we need wisdom about where the republican party is, where it come from, where it is going. and i got to ask you, i mean, it feels like there would have been a time, maybe, when republicans might not have called for walker to leave the race. but would not have rallied around him. is this the after effect of the trump presidency when they rally around politics? >> i think the strategy at the top is to try to survive donald trump who is almost always a wrecking ball in the general election. and in the old days, we would have stopped this herschel thing in the primary. and not nominated such a weak candidate. particularly in a year like this where you don't have to be a great republican candidate to win. so this is just the kind of disaster, you know, the practical politicians don't want. now we're stuck with him. accident have bag fan club. what does have a big fan club is winning that georgia seat. and then they surround h

neil: former florida governor jeb bush, presidential candidate, had a pretty good guess on what that schools, how they are doing, how our kids are doing, not well, thank you the fact of the matter both reading, math scores down across the board depending on the grade, the school, the great, but pretty much across the board weakening during covid. keep in mind better than $100 billion committed to deal with this and make sure that that would not be the case during covid. jeff flock takes a look at all of this from philadelphia. hey, jeff. reporter: neil, hello to you, not pretty. if i brought this report card home back in the day i think i might have gotten a good whipping. as you point out across the board both reading and math scores, fourth graders andth graders, this is what called national assessment of educational progress, the nation's report card they call it, yeah, not one single state in the union recorded an increase in progress in either math or in reading. if you look at math specifically, the proficiency level, we were kind of bad as the governor pointed out there, we we

marco rubio starts notices jeb bush republican, then he's the king of the tea party, then he's a trump kind of anything he needs to be. it isn't surprising to me that he would be fine with having a white supremacist, white nationalist, who's got the proud boys guarding his hospital room on his team. but i wonder about the bigger picture here, particularly in miami-dade, where you've got the proud boys essentially taking over the republican party there. they are literally in power in the official republican party. how deep is this merger at this point between proud boys, cuban honors, other white nationalists and the republicans in south florida? >> it's a wholesale merged enterprise if you will. what makes it even worse joy is that you have members of congress, republican senators and officials in florida, not a single one, not a single one has denounced the proud boys that have entered the leadership of the local republican party in south florida. let's think about that for a second. the proud boys been classified as a domestic terrorist organization. the leader of the proud boys is i

we saw wit jeb bush running for governor and george w. bush in '04. i think bush w.tionwide. so talk about your insights from this poll. what jumps out at you? >> well, joe, florida is a state you know well. just think ten years ago in 2012, obama wins florida back-to-back elections, 2008, 2012, solely on the strength of his performance with hispanic voters, including getting almost half of the cuban vote. two years later, charlie crist wins the cuban vote in the governor's race of 2014, but these are now back to the future numbers. the republicans in florida have erased all of the progress that democrats made ten years ago, and this is why now we may now be looking on november 8th florida's move from the ultimate battleground state to a solid red republican state. it's because these hispanic voters have gone in the other direction. >> okay. so what is it that democrats can still do or haven't done that has added to this trend? >> mika, you know, it's really a case of demolition by neglect here in florida. for whatever reason, despite the democrats have come close in

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republican strategist mike murphy, who has advised republican candidates, including john mccain and jeb bush and mitt romney, he is currently co-host of the hawks on top podcast. mike, you are the person that i want to speak to about all of this. because i need, we need wisdom about where the republican party is, where it has come from -- i've got to ask you, it feels like there would have been a time when republicans might not have called for walker to leave the, race but would not have rallied around him in the way that they are. is this the after effect of the trump presidency when republicans sort of developed a new strategy of immunity politics? i think the strategy is to try to survive donald trump who is almost always a wrecking ball in the general election. in the olden days, we would have stopped this herschel thing in the primary. not nominated such a weak candidate. particularly in a year like this where you don't have to be a great republican candidate to win. so this just to kind of disaster, you know, that politics don't want. now they are stuck with him. he doesn't have a big

he had all the correct supporters, jeb bush, everybody, everything up for adam putnam to be the governor of florida in 2018. what did ron desantis do? he went on fox news, he went fox news every day. it seemed he was there and shows were booking him and he just went on fox and under old thinking this is a big mistake right because people want to be in their community. they want to see you at, you know, the gator wrestling or whatever do whatever, whatever, whatever florida is version of of a west virginia ramp dinner or a being dinner is. that's where they want to see you. and it's about being local and it's all that stuff. well, ron desantis didn't do any of that and he it right. he crushed that primary and he was right. the high stature ratio of fox among the republican base, particularly in florida, where fox does well and you know beats the local right. fox beats the local news and national news in some of the markets. florida. so that saturation that desantis went for paid off. now that's a different thing, right? that's a different of thing. people talk about the fox primary on rep

from the non maga republicans, from mitch mcconnell, for mitt romney, where is your former boss jeb bush on all this? >> this is a good point. to be honest -- across the ideological spectrum. obviously there's some on the right. they are marginalized. they absolutely have been marginalized and aggressively so. the change that is so important, what donald trump is doing now is consistent. you are right to point this out. he isn't on she bunkie races. he is a narcissist. if someone doesn't like him and say they support him, he's going to say mean things about them. the fact that he can do this consequence free without any pushback, without any pushback from republican leaders, from republican media types, in fact, exactly the opposite. you mentioned ye's interview. it was on tucker carlson's show, the most watched show and all of the country on cable news, on the right. tucker knew -- he only included the light antisemitism and cut out the more direct antisemitism. it shows that they recognize it. not only are they pushing back on, and they are complicit in it and advancing it. it is happe

. >>> let's continue the conversation with tim miller, former communications director for jeb bush'srk." republicans have a different view than we just heard from jen. they call it a ghost report. they warn any positive growth is a phantom, claiming the majority of americans are bracing for what they call a cruel biden recession. the numbers support that americans are worried about a recession. at this late stage can you sort of flood the campaign trail with a lot of surrogates and change enough minds, especially in the races where a fairly small number of votes per precinct could make a difference? >> i think that you can make a difference. i think some of these races are going to be very close. you're looking at the polls, and i think the question is what is the most effective message for democrats in order to bring that home? i think listening to jen o'malley dillon, everything she said was true, but it's complicated, right? it's a hard message to explain to people, some of the macroeconomic factors are pretty good while their day-to-day bills are going up. it's a lot easier to sa

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in this county and in this state, and as a result, ron desantis might be the first governor since jeb bush2002, in 20 years, to win miami dade. if that happens, it's a wipeout. >> bush was a miami guy. latino for many people. that's different. >> right. it is different. this is -- a lot of this is the spillover trump effect. trump sort of rewired this county. >> why? how? >> well, he -- he showed up. he told hispanics -- one person had once told me that he made hispanics feel great again. and that was a democratic consultant. and his campaign also did a good job communicating a lot of blue-collar concerns within a culture war context that played very well to the latino electorates down here, not just cuban americans. it's venezuelan americans, it's nicaraguaen americans, across the board, colombian americans. and the fruition of that is kind of being harvested or the fruits of that are being harvested by desantis. remember, donald trump went from losing miami dade county, the biggest county, most populous county in the state of florida, by 29 percentage points in 2016 to losing it by only