jed holtzman? welcome. >> thank you, commissioners for the chance to speak. it's hard to go after a few other people because i feel like i have to respond to some inaccuracies that have taken place in my time, i just want to second what commissioner vietor said, the puc is saying that it will be impossible to get to a final build-out plan until this not to exceed rate is set so i was at the environment commission meeting marathon, they're upset there's an outline of a plan, i would like to point out there's an outline of a plan, we need to take action on this in order to get a plan. affordability was a plan. everyone was up in arms. a lot of work has been done by staff to bring that down to 11 and a half cent, ibew1245 is still using extremely high rates, probably the 14 and a half cent rates to scare folks away from the cc a, tell them it is going to double their bill, now that the rate has been lowered just to get the bill down off the ground, they are now trashing the rec, saying it's not real green power, it's hard for me to see how they could want high r