. >> jed holtzman, 350 bay area. certainly back in 2013, it did not look like this was going to happen. i'm surprised that i haven't heard about, like, the party yet, like the city has finally enrolled party. i'm sure they're too busy fighting off bad legislation, but i look forward to my invitation. the advertisements that we see around town for our city, our power, i think it is a lot more affective than what we had going on before. my hope is hearing what they're planning on focusing on over the next year with customer programs and kind of increasing super green buy-in, that we're on the right track in terms of getting messaging out that people actually pay attention to. in terms of customer programs, i want to highlight the need for us to pay attention to heat-pump water heating and space heating, and how people are going to pay in existing buildings for kind of decarbonizing their homes. berkeley just passed an ord naordinance to ban natural gas pipes in new construction. we'll be pushing that throughout the bay

. >> hello, jed holtzman, 350 bay area. i wanted to provide a little bit of, i guess, context for folks who maybe weren't dealing with this over the last several years. when we talk about -- you know -- this is the first time hearing that there is a disagreement. i can only imagine what it may relate to. i would just like to say that the last time the s.f. p.u.c. was doing their intergrated resource planning process, which only happens every two years, and the last time they were involved in capital planning, they also told us we needed to delay our discussion of local integrative build-out that we'd been talking about before i got involved in 2013, until that was done. those were done. it didn't happen. and we're now on the next cycle of those. and i can only imagine that we're going to hear folks wanting to wait for the first s.f. p.u.c. plan, and for them to put out their getting to 2030 i.r.p., before we start looking at what we might like to do. you know, if we take over pg&e's infrastructure, clean power s.f. won't ev