i do agree with jedidiah that this thing is going to, you know, it's pretty much done now.'t really think that sanders can get there from here, south carolina is his first real test and i don't think he's going to do well there at all, unless he can start expanding the base and i think people are pulling away from him right now. lou: so, do you think this little contest between sanders, jedidiah and hillary, is it real or is it manufactured to make for interest in a race that otherwise is a coronation. >> i think it's real. they differ on issues, bernie sanders is the kind of guy -- lou: of the debate, it was a lovefest, not a debate. >> they play a little differently than the republicans do. republicans really go at each other and they get involved in character attacks and they get very dramatic, there are a lot of tantrums on the republican party. bernie sanders approach was a little different in that he wanted to be an ideological contrast to hillary clinton but didn't want to look like the guy that got mettled in all of the personal attacks. i saw hillary clinton soundi

what does that mean, jedidiah?he finally gaining traction. >> i think ted cruz is to many viewed as the reliable conservative in the race. hard core conservatives, talk radio loves him. there's a lot of people who look at a donald trump and a ben carson and say i like them but what would they do in office? for some reason ted cruz stands out as the reliable guy. they have faith in him when it comes to obamacare, key issues, shutting down the government. this is a guy who a strong fiscal conservative and willing to dig his heels in on issues. that is what that component of the republican party is look for, he's their guy. lou: las vegas and the democratic debate tonight. the idea that somehow anderson cooper, even though he was part of the -- i love this -- the clinton global initiative is going to really give hillary clinton fits. that's gone by the wayside, hasn't it? >> lou, i have to say, i almost fell asleep hearing you talk about this debate. i can't imagine it will be particularly exciting to watch. lou: i di

let's find out what jedidiah bila and lachlan markay think about it all. lachlan is an author at the washington free beacon, jedidiah, fox news contributor. good to have you with us. this is quite a move right now, waiting to see whether or not we're told ryan is going to come out and talk. what in the world is going on from your perspective? >> it's been the waiting game for the last couple weeks here but i think all indications are that he is going to run, as you mention meeting with the house freedom caucus he met with the tuesday group, sort of trying to put feelers out there and make sure he's able to actually get something done as speaker. we know he wants to push tax reform through. wanted to do that at the ways and means committee and there will be opportunities to shepherd that through as speaker. he was reluctant at first but all indication are he's going to throw his hat in the ring tonight. >> i think he was just being high lachlan, i really do. congressman mick mulvaney says ryan told members of the caucus that both conservatives and moderates

lou: joining me jedidiah bila, let's start, who won?for me, marco rubio, he was the clear winner, i thought ted cruz did a great job, donald trump did a great job, i would remove a couple from the stage for sure. rubio is consistently able to talk about issues, turn difficult questions into answers that people can really get behind. he has a lot of specifics on foreign policy always, he has specifics on the economy, he has a really great story, charismatic guy but cool, calm, collected with facts, and thinking about hillary clinton and the kind of delivery style she has in a debate, that would be the way they would go if i were looking to win. lou: laughlin, who won in your view? >> rubio definitely came out on top. chris christie did shine. lou: i agree. >> he was able to unleash his inner new jersey and come out with the style he's known and loved for and governor huckabee did well. i didn't agree with things he said. lou: what didn't you agree with? >> i thought his entitlement answer kind of dodged the question in terms of saying th

butterfield's other adult child, his son, jedidiah was in the courtroom to testify against him. >> it'ssee my son. to see his smile. he's blessed since birth. becky was always serious. i love that. she was so responsible but jedd was like a -- more like a corn ball, more like me, a goof, always smiling, always wanted to have fun. all he wanted to do was have fun. becky was like my mom or something. more like my mom than my daughter. my mom if my mom was responsible. becky was more responsible than my own mother. what am i going to say? what am i going to say about becky, she was great. it's weird to have a little girl that's so responsible. it's weird. jedd wasn't. he did the smart thing, bail, worry about yourself, take care of number one. becky didn't have that spirit. she didn't have a take care of numero uno mentality. she had a never leave a fallen comrade, even if it costs you your life, which it did. which it did. >> over in the women's wing of the jail, mary kay concepcion has just had her 26th birthday but it also marks the death of her 2-year-old son, fox. concepcion and her b