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we did not know jeff bezos will be making his visit. what do we know?some pictures yesterday on social media where some warehouse workers were surprised that jeff bezos was in town. this is a fulfillment center in dallas. he was wearing jeans and a mask and rallying the troops. there have been a lot of news -- there has been a lot of concern about the workers in this warehouse. later did put out a tweet featuring some video footage of him walking around the facility. emily: talk to us about where they are. they just instituted some new guidelines telling workers to wait 24 hours before touching a package? a messagehere was from a warehouse in eastern pennsylvania that went out to some workers that ringing alarm because workers were told that any shipments from this one particular facility in hazleton, pennsylvania, to let those packages sit for 24 hours. that facility is one that takes in shipments from all over the place, even overseas, bricks them down and send them out to other -- breaks them down and sends them out to other fulfillment centers. some
we did not know jeff bezos will be making his visit. what do we know?some pictures yesterday on social media where some warehouse workers were surprised that jeff bezos was in town. this is a fulfillment center in dallas. he was wearing jeans and a mask and rallying the troops. there have been a lot of news -- there has been a lot of concern about the workers in this warehouse. later did put out a tweet featuring some video footage of him walking around the facility. emily: talk to us about...
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they went to jeff bezos.hey said we have unsafe conditions here, and he responded by firing the people who pointed out the unsafe conditions rather than working with them to try to correct them. that's just outrageous. that's why all of us are standing up to make sure that these workers have a safe place to work, and quite frankly, that all front line workers have the equipment and the standards necessary for them to protect themselves so they don't have to choose between their health and well-being and a paycheck. >> richard, here in new york city every night at 7:00 p.m. and even it's happening at other places around the world people open up their windows and doors and they clap and they thank those workers who are out there who keep on working so that people can stay home. so our thanks to your workers whom you represent. richard trumka is the president of the afl-cio, the largest federation of unions in the united states. >>> up next, as the united states sees soaring unemployment numbers, other countries
they went to jeff bezos.hey said we have unsafe conditions here, and he responded by firing the people who pointed out the unsafe conditions rather than working with them to try to correct them. that's just outrageous. that's why all of us are standing up to make sure that these workers have a safe place to work, and quite frankly, that all front line workers have the equipment and the standards necessary for them to protect themselves so they don't have to choose between their health and...
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jeff bezos was already the world's richest man before the pandemic yet but with everyone staying at home he is now roughly $24000000000.00 richer his wife has seen her net worth vastly increase as well and at this point amazon has reached an all time high and it stocks on tuesday valued at market over $1.00 trillion $1.01 thing we've learned from the kovac $900.00 crisis is how important amazon has become to customize we want you to know we take this responsibility seriously and we're proud of the work our teams are doing to help customers through this difficult time business is booming 75000 new employees and amazon warehouses are being hired in addition to the 100000 that were hired over the past month they are called heroes by amazon as they take a great risk of exposure in order to bring in bay's owes billions. right now the laboring the things people need has never been more important. to all of our hamazon retail heroes will continue to do everything ok and. healthy safe and protected many say that amazon has not been working to protect its heroes the company has been slow in worki
jeff bezos was already the world's richest man before the pandemic yet but with everyone staying at home he is now roughly $24000000000.00 richer his wife has seen her net worth vastly increase as well and at this point amazon has reached an all time high and it stocks on tuesday valued at market over $1.00 trillion $1.01 thing we've learned from the kovac $900.00 crisis is how important amazon has become to customize we want you to know we take this responsibility seriously and we're proud of...
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for striking in protest of the company's handling of the pandemic this after end of the people jeff bezos so generously gave whole foods employees an extra $2.00 an hour encourage them to donate sick leave to one another and granted unlimited time off unpaid but a limited time you can spend making no money whatsoever is endless workers at whole foods twisted sister company amazon are unhappy eve on monday employee chris smalls was abruptly fired after leaving a protest at the oxymoronic amazon fulfillment center in staten island he demanded that the facility be closed unsanitized after a coworker tested positive for coded 19 schools called the firing retaliatory but amazon claims that he was violating social distancing guidelines now was worried as employers are about the coronavirus there's another scores on the american economy that they're even more determined to stomp out that's the spread of a labor union ization over a trader joe's in the past few months whispers about unionizing up and walking through the air one with a sense of their fresh moose jerky granola clusters spritzed wit
for striking in protest of the company's handling of the pandemic this after end of the people jeff bezos so generously gave whole foods employees an extra $2.00 an hour encourage them to donate sick leave to one another and granted unlimited time off unpaid but a limited time you can spend making no money whatsoever is endless workers at whole foods twisted sister company amazon are unhappy eve on monday employee chris smalls was abruptly fired after leaving a protest at the oxymoronic amazon...
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are realizing that they are the ones who keep the grocery store stop the utilities running and jeff bezos is washington ready it's them not the ruling class who keeps the economy running and if they wanted to could shut things down once the workers build a movement strong enough to stage a general strike it will be too late for their bosses. because solidarity is contagious we're together on this. reporting from a barren bunker alone with no one else for miles and originally redacted tonight. here are your headlines from the future in 3 days you'll read a nation 600000 homeless blatantly refusing stay at home orders and in one week you'll learn. quarantine the world leaders are news anchors clearly already on mars that's our show but if you want to bring something for you to do at home check out my standup comedy special it's at least camp american dot com again it's free and my new book is that lee cam book dot com there won't be a new redacted tonight next week but there will be a new redacted v.i.p. until next time goodnight and keep fighting. this is a story of women women with troubl
are realizing that they are the ones who keep the grocery store stop the utilities running and jeff bezos is washington ready it's them not the ruling class who keeps the economy running and if they wanted to could shut things down once the workers build a movement strong enough to stage a general strike it will be too late for their bosses. because solidarity is contagious we're together on this. reporting from a barren bunker alone with no one else for miles and originally redacted tonight....
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emily: the biggest labor groups have sent a letter to jeff bezos about these issues.e know about where he stands on all this? we know he has been inside some of these meetings where these terminations have been discussed , so where does jeff bezos stand? that they are a typical modern u.s. company, anti-organized labor, and they have fended off potential organizing drives in their warehouses. amazon from talking to executives that they are worried long-term about the perception that warehouses are not a good place to work, and also the long-term threat of having to bargain across the table, so they take this seriously. we have to leave it there. thank you for that update. i am sure we will be back with you soon. coming up, easing the burden on parents desperate for resources. we will talk about that after this break. this is bloomberg. ♪ as the coronavirus hit, new zealand put one scientist front and center to explain the disease to adults and children with the daily science show for homebound kids all over the world. here is this edition of hello world. >>, and ashle
emily: the biggest labor groups have sent a letter to jeff bezos about these issues.e know about where he stands on all this? we know he has been inside some of these meetings where these terminations have been discussed , so where does jeff bezos stand? that they are a typical modern u.s. company, anti-organized labor, and they have fended off potential organizing drives in their warehouses. amazon from talking to executives that they are worried long-term about the perception that warehouses...
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that's jeff bezos at amazon speaking.zon hat about 750,000 employees, more than a lot of small certifieities. he is says he wants to be test every one of his workers. and he's taking matters into his own hands. amazon, because they have the manpower, are going to come up with labs of their own and equipment of their own to start testing small numbers of their own employees. the hope there is perhaps states could use what jeff bezos is doing with amazon as a blueprint as to how to roll this out in a larger scale for themselves. >> and without that widespread testing, still some governors are making plans to reopen. in texas, governor abbott has a plan to reopen the economy. when we're talking about small businesses, could some of them hurt even more if things are open too soon before the general public feels comfortable. for example, restaurants, you're paying your waiters, back staff and nobody is coming in to eat. >> exactly. and if some of those businesses are back up and running, they may not qualify for the loans out
that's jeff bezos at amazon speaking.zon hat about 750,000 employees, more than a lot of small certifieities. he is says he wants to be test every one of his workers. and he's taking matters into his own hands. amazon, because they have the manpower, are going to come up with labs of their own and equipment of their own to start testing small numbers of their own employees. the hope there is perhaps states could use what jeff bezos is doing with amazon as a blueprint as to how to roll this out...
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the chairman will stay socially distant from jeff bezos will not buy amazon shares. banks to the rescue. meet packers are leaving the virus we know there -- virus. we know they are buying cuts they have never bought before. in these three months of vietnam war, the number of dead good morning, -- dead. good morning, everyone, bloomberg "surveillance" from new york and london. the emotional swings from this landmark of 58,000 dead and harkening back to the vietnam war, to the
the chairman will stay socially distant from jeff bezos will not buy amazon shares. banks to the rescue. meet packers are leaving the virus we know there -- virus. we know they are buying cuts they have never bought before. in these three months of vietnam war, the number of dead good morning, -- dead. good morning, everyone, bloomberg "surveillance" from new york and london. the emotional swings from this landmark of 58,000 dead and harkening back to the vietnam war, to the
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gets and jeff bezos should get $7.00 an hour. let's goes to space with $7.00. and i got to get some mars on this toilet paper roll but anyways. yeah that is interesting i wanted to point out that during right after the influenza pandemic there was a general a general strike in $119.00 so the mutual aid society is that that kind of developed during the 1918 pandemic because the government again was on rely on. for certain like quarantining measures and safety measures those mutual aid societies and workers unions came out stronger rather right after the pandemic so i think we're seeing that actually again and that's why we have a history teacher. thank you. but i wanted to talk about like what is the american perspective on the coronavirus because it is a global phenomenon and i think this video really captures what the american point of view is this is the lieutenant governor dan patrick of texas talking about how how he would contribute to the economy in this time of crisis let's take a look no one reached out to me and said as
gets and jeff bezos should get $7.00 an hour. let's goes to space with $7.00. and i got to get some mars on this toilet paper roll but anyways. yeah that is interesting i wanted to point out that during right after the influenza pandemic there was a general a general strike in $119.00 so the mutual aid society is that that kind of developed during the 1918 pandemic because the government again was on rely on. for certain like quarantining measures and safety measures those mutual aid societies...
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jeff bezos himself along with others who make up corporate revealed specifics about a worker named christian smalls in a leaked memo and amazon general counsel reportedly called him quote not smart or to kill it and reportedly wanted to use him as part of a p.r. strategy to make him the face of the entire union organizing movement it's no secret that amazon has resisted efforts of organized labor for years smalls was let go last week after leading colleagues in a lunch hour protest in staten island new york over the company's response to the pandemic we don't have don't buy the deputy sheriff. it's dark crystal yeah you don't look like you're born you're down like we started this and walked it is strong but we're told by senior he sees their deeds but we call the c.d.c. to get downstairs but amazon says small's was fired for violating a company policy of a 14 day quarantine period after coming into contact with an employee who tested positive for the virus when specifically asked about the memo david's billow ski amazon's general counsel said that his comments were quote personal and emotion
jeff bezos himself along with others who make up corporate revealed specifics about a worker named christian smalls in a leaked memo and amazon general counsel reportedly called him quote not smart or to kill it and reportedly wanted to use him as part of a p.r. strategy to make him the face of the entire union organizing movement it's no secret that amazon has resisted efforts of organized labor for years smalls was let go last week after leading colleagues in a lunch hour protest in staten...
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so much money doesn't know what to do with it so they can pretty much do whatever they want and jeff bezos is just a strange man who likes to do these kinds of things right he loves the idea i'm going to test every employee and we're going to monitor our for your standing from someone else what's more likely to happen in the short term is that there might be in office buildings you know kind of a temporary testing site set up was you know this one article that essentially said in the future we could have employees required to come in to work earlier than usual so they can go through a testing facility be tested in like the lobby of their office building and then within a few minutes know whether they can go upstairs and go to work. there is so much for t associated with that though after a short amount of time i mean how how long can you carry that on it might happen for a short time but in the long run i don't see employees or employers either paying for or wanting to go through this for months or even years on it it's a lot of time we already see some business you know the office is doin
so much money doesn't know what to do with it so they can pretty much do whatever they want and jeff bezos is just a strange man who likes to do these kinds of things right he loves the idea i'm going to test every employee and we're going to monitor our for your standing from someone else what's more likely to happen in the short term is that there might be in office buildings you know kind of a temporary testing site set up was you know this one article that essentially said in the future we...
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take action and i invite jeff bezos a visit his facility and do something about the people coughing and sneezing as you're walking and it's just something needs to be done i stand for everybody here beside me and i want these he does he want to be shut down immediately for professional cleaning all we want for them to do is shut the boat enough for 2 weeks with pay why it's like a deep cleaning bill and despite amazon's general counsel claiming they're brainstorming ideas on how to beat the crown a virus according to protesters the facilities are not abiding by the center for disease control interventions guidelines for cocaine 1000 safety standards you're not really doing social distancing there's about 5 to 600 people in a building on a daily basis. sometimes in some areas we are shoulder to shoulder and it can't be 6 feet away on the staten island facility remains open despite an employee testing positive for the krona virus small says he's writing governor andrew cuomo hoping he'll shut it down for an extensive clean reporting in los angeles natasha sweet r.t. . tried joining us to
take action and i invite jeff bezos a visit his facility and do something about the people coughing and sneezing as you're walking and it's just something needs to be done i stand for everybody here beside me and i want these he does he want to be shut down immediately for professional cleaning all we want for them to do is shut the boat enough for 2 weeks with pay why it's like a deep cleaning bill and despite amazon's general counsel claiming they're brainstorming ideas on how to beat the...
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i worked for joe jeff bezos for three years. terrific guy. >> hopefully he paid you in stock? >> he did. the smartest thing i ever did. it's helped the internet archives grow and grow. thank you to jeff bezos and steve case who bought my company before that. he ran america online. so i built a company that -- america online and steve case bought. i've been very fortunate. it's all toward this goal of building the library. i've only had one idea, trying to stay at it. i wanted by october of 2020, let's be able to say welcome to the library, that the internet is not a library. can we make the library enough to raise educated citizens? if we don't, they'll learn from whatever they have in front of them. if it's foreign points of view, just trolling people making stuff up, we'll end up with a mess. i say we're sort of seeing that play out. so why don't we go and stand up and help out the facebooks, the twitters, that are trying to make referencible material. sometimes not as much as they should be. how do we make it possible? yes, it can be made up, but at least you know it's made
i worked for joe jeff bezos for three years. terrific guy. >> hopefully he paid you in stock? >> he did. the smartest thing i ever did. it's helped the internet archives grow and grow. thank you to jeff bezos and steve case who bought my company before that. he ran america online. so i built a company that -- america online and steve case bought. i've been very fortunate. it's all toward this goal of building the library. i've only had one idea, trying to stay at it. i wanted by...
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to some of the other business stories making news around the world the world's richest man jeff bezos has become even richer shares in his retail giant amazon have shot up in value according to bloomberg basis of office have increased by $24000000000.00 to over $138000000000.00 since the beginning of this year. delivery services have been in high demand us people stay home during a big corona virus outbreak. french carmaker ran nose says it is getting rid of its loss making pos and your car business in china the tie up with the dongfeng motor group has been in place since 2013 but has struggled to make money the coronavirus crisis has made things substantially worse with car sales plummeting in china. like much of the rest of the world argentina is in lockdown with the economy effectively shut down entrepreneurs have time on their hands time that they've been investing in helping their country pull through the crisis from 3 d. printed protective gear to ventilators made in car factories under news the flexibility are on full display. here in moreno aside one is ari's the dero architec
to some of the other business stories making news around the world the world's richest man jeff bezos has become even richer shares in his retail giant amazon have shot up in value according to bloomberg basis of office have increased by $24000000000.00 to over $138000000000.00 since the beginning of this year. delivery services have been in high demand us people stay home during a big corona virus outbreak. french carmaker ran nose says it is getting rid of its loss making pos and your car...
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thank you to jeff bezos and steve case, who bought my company before that. he ran america online. americaa company that online bought. five been very fortunate but it was all toward the goal of building the library. since 1980, i've only had one idea and so i'm just trying to stay at it. by 2020, october 20 20 -- i set the school years ago, let's be able to say -- gold years ago, let's be able to say the internet is a library. the internet is a library and it will have all the features that we grew up with, whether it is the old periodicals, it has reliable access that is card catalog that you can find things. can we actually make the library of the digital age come to be, that has enough to raise educated citizens? if we don't, we are going to end up with a generation that learns from whatever they have in front forhem, and if it is paid stuff from political points of view for foreign points of view or just strolling people that are making stuff up, we are going to end up with a mess. we are sort of seeing my plan out, so why don't we go and stand up and help out the facebook's,
thank you to jeff bezos and steve case, who bought my company before that. he ran america online. americaa company that online bought. five been very fortunate but it was all toward the goal of building the library. since 1980, i've only had one idea and so i'm just trying to stay at it. by 2020, october 20 20 -- i set the school years ago, let's be able to say -- gold years ago, let's be able to say the internet is a library. the internet is a library and it will have all the features that we...
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jeff bezos seeing in a note that these are not normal circumstances.ever, the company did say they did higher 175,000 additional workers they had planned to hire to meet demand over the last few weeks. rohitt to bring in a o of mkm partners. what is your headline take away? rohit: everything is good at amazon. are think these unprecedented times and unprecedented times is when they do best. all these they would have other wise made in normal circumstances, they will throw that into investment for it. a positive long-term sign for investors. near-term, it will be depressed. emily: let's talk a little bit about profit. always had slim margins. but with a profit getting even tighter, does that concern you? rohit: not in the near term. i think the bigger question here iss amazon think there something that is going on? behavior change, or permanent change in their cost structure because of what the world is going through right now. i think that is the big question mark in my opinion. i think what amazon is doing is right for consumers, and what's right for
jeff bezos seeing in a note that these are not normal circumstances.ever, the company did say they did higher 175,000 additional workers they had planned to hire to meet demand over the last few weeks. rohitt to bring in a o of mkm partners. what is your headline take away? rohit: everything is good at amazon. are think these unprecedented times and unprecedented times is when they do best. all these they would have other wise made in normal circumstances, they will throw that into investment...
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everybody will have a higher level of wealth -- >> it does not make any difference who are not jeff bezos. that's a problem, recognizing that there is a need to lift up all americans and i think also it's important -- maybe it helps policymakers to recognize if the u.s. wants to compete against the rest of the world, other countries like china and india with a billion plus people power, we don't have the people power especially failed must enter much less if we don't lift up americans and have as many americans as possible and have full potential to be productive and innovative and bring america back to number one. >> i know my parents really talked about the sense of unity coming out of world war ii and they relayed how in their lifetime they experienced this, my mother came from an extraordinary level of poverty, her mother with her first three children, lost the three children to the county in the middle the great depression and lived in a boxcar, who can imagine my grandmother realizing that her grandson might serve in the u.s. senate. extraordinarily change for the both sides of the
everybody will have a higher level of wealth -- >> it does not make any difference who are not jeff bezos. that's a problem, recognizing that there is a need to lift up all americans and i think also it's important -- maybe it helps policymakers to recognize if the u.s. wants to compete against the rest of the world, other countries like china and india with a billion plus people power, we don't have the people power especially failed must enter much less if we don't lift up americans and...
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thank you to jeff bezos and steve case bought my company before that. he ran american online. seibold the company that america online and steve case but. i have been very fortunate but it was all towards this goal of building the library. i've only had one idea, and so just trying to stay at it. i wanted by 2020, october of 2020, let's be able to say welcome to the library, that the internet is now a library. the internet is library and it will have all of the features that frankly we grew up with, whether it's the old periodicals. it has reliable access and card catalog you can find things. can we actually make the library of the digital age come to be, that has enough to raise educated citizens? if we don't wig work on end uph a generation of deserters. he will learn from whatever they have in front of them. and if it's paid for stuff from political point of view or foreign points of view or just trolling people that are just making stuff up, we are going to up with a mess. and i say where sort of seeing that play out. so why do we go and stand up and help out the facebook's
thank you to jeff bezos and steve case bought my company before that. he ran american online. seibold the company that america online and steve case but. i have been very fortunate but it was all towards this goal of building the library. i've only had one idea, and so just trying to stay at it. i wanted by 2020, october of 2020, let's be able to say welcome to the library, that the internet is now a library. the internet is library and it will have all of the features that frankly we grew up...
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thank you to jeff bezos. and steve case who bought my company before that he ran american online. i built a company that america online and steve case bought. i've been fortunate but it was all towards this whole building the library. it was always toward this. i've only had one idea and so just trying to stay at it. i really wanted my 2020 october 2020 and i set the school a few years ago let's say welcome to the library of the internet. the internet archive would be a piece but the internet is a library and has all the features that frankly, we grew up with. whether it's old periodicals or it has reliable axis and a card catalog that you can find things and can we make will live -- library of the digital age come to be that house enough to raise educated citizens. if we don't, we will end up with a generation that will learn from whatever they have in front of them and if it's paid for stuff from political points of view or foreign points of view were just trolling people that are making stuff up we will end up with a mess and i say we are sort of scene that play out. why don't
thank you to jeff bezos. and steve case who bought my company before that he ran american online. i built a company that america online and steve case bought. i've been fortunate but it was all towards this whole building the library. it was always toward this. i've only had one idea and so just trying to stay at it. i really wanted my 2020 october 2020 and i set the school a few years ago let's say welcome to the library of the internet. the internet archive would be a piece but the internet...
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in a letter to shareholders, ceo jeff bezos wrote, for this to work, we as a society would need vastly more testing capacity than is currently available. >> the plain reality here is we have to do it in partnership with the federal government. you're talking about supply chains that go back to china. >> reporter: trump says he wants the states to take the lead on testing. >> we need to have national coordination of the supply chain to get these reagents and swabs and everything to where they need to go, and it's unevenly distributed across the country. we need a national point of view to win this battle. >> reporter: so testing will be key, so here in los angeles we're not going to have any smorting events or concerts for a year, so they've turned the parking lot into a drive through covid-19 testing facility. nick watt, cnn, los angeles. >>> peter droback joins me now. he is a global health expert with the oxford business school. he's live. peter, thanks for coming on. >> good morning. >> this is a pivotal day. the president announcing guidelines to open states, but they're in stages
in a letter to shareholders, ceo jeff bezos wrote, for this to work, we as a society would need vastly more testing capacity than is currently available. >> the plain reality here is we have to do it in partnership with the federal government. you're talking about supply chains that go back to china. >> reporter: trump says he wants the states to take the lead on testing. >> we need to have national coordination of the supply chain to get these reagents and swabs and...
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it does make any difference to the people who are not, not jeff bezos. that's a problem is recognizing that there is this need to lift up all americans. also it's important maybe it helps policymakers to know that if you want to compete against rest of the world. china and india with 1,000,000,000+ people power, we don't have the people power especially with much less if we don't try to lift up all americans and have as many americans as possible reach their full potential be productive, innovative and really bring america back to number one. >> host: i know my parents really talked about the sense of unity coming out of world war ii. and they relayed how in their lifetime experience this great leap forward. my mother came from extraordinary level of poverty. our mother with her first three children, loss of those three children to the count in the middle of the great depression. she lives in a boxcar. who could imagine my grandmother realizing that a grandson might serve in the u.s. senate? extraordinary change from both sides of the family. but you des
it does make any difference to the people who are not, not jeff bezos. that's a problem is recognizing that there is this need to lift up all americans. also it's important maybe it helps policymakers to know that if you want to compete against rest of the world. china and india with 1,000,000,000+ people power, we don't have the people power especially with much less if we don't try to lift up all americans and have as many americans as possible reach their full potential be productive,...
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ceo jeff bezos echoing what many business leaders told me over the past couple of days.re and regular testing in order to get the economy back up and running safely for employees and customers and clearly, there aren't enough tests yet. so to that end, jeff bezos said he instructed a group of amazon employees to get together across units and develop tools to create these tests. they'll be using it on small numbers of employees. he writes to shareholders, we think it's worth trying and stand ready to share anything we learn. this is part of a much bigger story about business leaders taking the lead on reopening the economy. >> reporter: i'm diane gallagher in atlanta. the state of south dakota is now reporting 1311 cases, more than half of those, 733 of them are associated with the smithfield foods processing plant in sioux falls. a special cdc team inspected the plant on thursday. the governor said she's expecting a report on that inspection within the coming days. smithfield has shut down two additional plants, one in wisconsin and one in missouri. >>> i'm amaral walker
ceo jeff bezos echoing what many business leaders told me over the past couple of days.re and regular testing in order to get the economy back up and running safely for employees and customers and clearly, there aren't enough tests yet. so to that end, jeff bezos said he instructed a group of amazon employees to get together across units and develop tools to create these tests. they'll be using it on small numbers of employees. he writes to shareholders, we think it's worth trying and stand...