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first time that arrows -- >> let's dig deeper on herman cain, the man and the candidate, with jeff campbell, former chairman of the pillsbury restaurant group, he hired cain to run godfather's pizza. just wrote a piece called the "cain mutiny." jeff, tell us the man herman cain what you saw in the ceo that carries over favorably and if you saw something that carries over unfavorably to herman cain, presidential candidate? >> a definite leader. there's a difference between managing and leading, and you can get by with management under some circumstances, particularly if things are sailing along smoothly. but when you've got something like a business that's got to be turned around and need energetic leadership to make that happen you better find yourself a leader. my recollection, though it's gone back quite a ways i don't think i spent a lot of time deciding who was the right person for that job. >> michael, we see that on the campaign trail. he is a leader. he is energetic, a great marketer. he brings a lot to the table. looking at potential future commander in chief, he's missing some piec

jeff campbell, the former pillsbury executive who hired cain to take over the pizza chain. and jeff. spencer, let me start with you. one of the things that people talk to herman cain or know herman cain say is that he's -- he's just likable. people seem to like him. he connects with voters very well. is this -- when you first met him, what was your response to herman cain? >> what you see is what you get. when i first met hermen en her, i walked into his office and had federal reser never met him. he said i've been trying to get you in here the last three days. come over here. let's talk. we talked about two hours. it was like he had known me all my life. >> you were at kraft foods at the time when he brought you over to work at godfather pizza. jeff -- >> i was -- that was at burg are king when he brought me over from kraft foods. >> you were at burger king. i'm sorry. very good. let me ask jeff. let's talk about herman cain being a likable guy, but there are questions about his experience in government. he likes to point out that that's his strength, that he doesn't have e

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