jeff crossley is a cave diving instructor and he was one of the divers who rescued les hewitt from a yorkshire cave in 1992. he is live from our newsroom in manchester here in the uk. percival, your reaction to how events have unfolded over the past few hours. it is absolutely fantastic that we have got two boys out. cautiously optimistic is what i would say with the news that they have been rescued. let's hope everybody else comes out in the same way. you are an expert diver and you have rescued individuals from critical situations. what must be going through those divers' mind? that is a good point, spare a thought for the divers. it is a very ominous task to rescue somebody from inside a small passage. i would echo everything that andrew has just said to be honest. they will be elated that they have got two of the boys out, but they will know that the job is farfrom done. out, but they will know that the job is far from done. it is like a tag tea m is far from done. it is like a tag team method where a group goes in and a group comes out on a rescue operation of this scale? that i

joining me is jeff taken to hospital by ambulance. joining me isjeff crossleyhas friends involved in the operation in thailand. you must be filled with joy, hearing this news. it's fantastic and i'm just waiting to hear that everyone is out, all the divers and the rescue workers as well. this has been an incredibly dangerous mission and a full time there was a doctor and three divers down there supporting the boys. there was a doctor and three divers down there supporting the boyslj think that was the right thing to have somebody there to keep the boys calm, let them know they were being supported and they would be getting out at one point. i have just read that set path they check, its difficult to process just how narrow some of these entrances were to get out of this cave. it's difficult, most people's nightmare, underground in the dark, underwater and a confined space but that's the nature of the beast. were quite used to dies in places like that as cave divers but for a non—diver it would be very challenging. i hope the way the boys saw it, being young and