. >>> the ten-year in focus jumping above 4% following strong jobs data renaissance macro jeff de graaf warning with it could be a risk to the move to the s&p. >> if i take a step back and look at yields from a technical perspective, it looks like they're going higher, so i do have to be mindful and respectful of that is it a disaster is it 5% or 6% or some of the big numbers that are out there i don't think so i think it's probably around 425. but at that level, some of the work we've done with our yield impact model, et cetera, does start to push against the s&p. that would be some concern for us >> joining us now, rich around bernstein adviser, ceo richard bernstein. great to see you how much of an issue is the ten-year yield being above that level, 4%, and also the climb in the two-year, which makes it more difficult for the parts of the market that bulls have been citing is it's good news, for instance, small caps are finally participating while a higher two-year yield makes it more difficult for smaller caps >> good morning, melissa your point and jeff's point in that previous cli