jeff charlotte is a contributor editor of vanity fair. >> kristen, the polling on all of this stuff is complicated. you can slice it and dice it a bunch of ways and it's little bit of a moving target, but i think when you talk about vaccines, it is still a majority -- like a healthy majority of americans either got the vaccine or want the vaccine, and that's thought even that controversial. it's really a subset of one part of americans. and it extends across all political ideologies, but particularly strong in this part of the republican party that is kind of an outlier. >> very grateful that you have shown all of that data about a majority of trump voters, for instance, being vaccinated. because i think so often the conversation around vaccines and our politics conflates people's views on the vaccines itself with policies like vaccine mandates. so you can look at the modern gop, and you can see about a third of republicans, maybe a little less, outright say i'm not getting vaccinated. i don't want it, no thank you. but most are pretty -- they have either said they have gotten it themselves, they're open to it, they don't t