but jeff ed jabbar former pakistan is sen federal minister and officer sen jabbar. it's a great pleasure, great honor for me to talk to you. thank you very much for your time. is my pleasure. thank you very much for inviting me now talk histones politics has never in particular adult, but i think you would agree with me that the sequence of events which began with the ousting or the removal from power all the former prime minister amber on how it is not petering out and it's draining the countries resources, it's taking away attention from other pressing social challenges. i'm sure there are lots and lots of factors contributing to these dynamic. but what do you think is the chief one china? what has happened since april 2022, in a sense, is that all the chickens, the chickens of contradictions and distortions the market street have come home to roost in the past 60 to 70 months. which is not true in any way under estimate or under value, the profundity of the crisis that we are going through. but only to suggest that this is the outcome of it started the process by