so that -- i organized an event two weeks ago where jeff fuller, who invetted -- he became the father of vonage, and he said, i'm a dreamer. and to him voip was ham radio talking to people all over the world in the internet age. he said if you make me come to a washington agency and get permission before i do it, i'll still dream, will just do it somewhere else. and that is the thing -- the change i'm -- the thing i like about the wheeler proposal is i want to preserve that flexibility for people who come up with strange ideas, have the latitude to try them. >> host: professor christopher yoo of the university of pennsylvania. please come back.

so that -- i organized an event two weeks ago where jeff fuller, who invetted -- he became the father of vonage, and he said, i'm a dreamer. and to him voip was ham radio talking to people all over the world in the internet age. he said if you make me come to a washington agency and get permission before i do it, i'll still dream, will just do it somewhere else. and that is the thing -- the change i'm -- the thing i like about the wheeler proposal is i want to preserve that flexibility for people who come up with strange ideas, have the latitude to try them. >> host: professor christopher yoo of the university of pennsylvania. please come back. >> president obama is in china for the asia-pacific economic summit before heading to the g20 summit in brisbane, australia. up next, discussion on u.s. relations with china and what we can expect from the summit. this is 40 minutes. >> with president obama attending the asia-pacific economic cooperation summit this week we're joined at our desk by bonnie glasser. remind us of the significance of he submit and what the president is trying to do

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