guy invited jeff glore to his home in nevada for a chat. >> reporter: there is no grass or a pool, but there is a runway. >> we just go. we kind of treat our airplanes like bicycles, you know. if you want to go to the end of the street, you go to the end of the street. >> reporter: on a windy morning outside reno, we went up in dye's rv-8. a flight path took us near air station fallon, home of the real top gun. >> we try to stay out of top gun's air space. probably a good idea, yes. >> reporter: for years he was head of kit planes magazines where he still contributes. his most impressive resume is with nasa where he worked more than 30 years, including 20 years as a flight director, more than anyone else in history. >> i consider myself kind of a feel general. i really like being in the battle. i like being in the thick of things. and i kind of recognized early on that unless i became a politician and ran for office, i wasn't going to be setting policy. i was going to be carrying policy out and i was just going to get frustrated if i moved up higher in the organization trying to set po