joining me now is jeff goodell, a scientist who has covered climate change for decades. i will note asheville is not a place known to have the need to brace from the impact of these monster storms. it's a testament to climate change, i would say, that you're even having to grapple with this. and our thoughts, of course, are with the people in your community and those in florida grappling with hurricane milton. let me start with the idea climate change is making a storm like milton 800 times more likely. does that sound right to you? >> the study you're it's making these hotter temperatures as you talked about in your introduction, more likely. it's not making the storm itself 800 times more likely, it's making the hotter waters that are driving these storms much more likely. but we do know because of these hotter waters, hurricanes are not only more likely but more intense, more destructive. we've seen that with milton with the rapid intensification of the storm and i think what we're really seeing is a sign of this new climate we're creating by continuing to burn fossil

the author of the new york times best selling book, "the heat will kill you first", jeff goodell putsne milton is a fossil fuel driven catastrophe. joining me from asheville, north carolina, a city still reeling from the effects of hurricane helene, jeff goodell, scientist that covered climate change for decades. thank you for being here, i will note that asheville is not a place known to have the need to brace for the impact of these monster storms, it is that testament to climate change, i would say, that your having to grapple with this and our thoughts are with people in your community and those in florida affected by hurricane milton. let me start with the idea climate change is making a storm like milton 800 times more likely, do you concur with that, does that sound right to you? >> yeah, the study you are citing suggested that global warming is making the sea surface temperatures 800 times more likely to reach these temperatures, which is making these hotter temperatures, as he talked about in your introduction more likely. not making the storm itself 800 times more likely, it

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