gordon's interaction with russia was on the side bar of a public event. >> jeff sessions had a meeting're we're dancing on the head of a pin here. i have not gotten to the bottom of a question here, why did so many people lied about russia. >> i don't think so many lied about russia. >> let sam talk, please, michael. >> i think there is different poetives, george poppadopulous was still looking for a job. another point is that yes, this part of it is over, but barr's first paragraph of that first -- of the second page of his letter, he says these are ongoing matters that were given off, this has not worked off for sitting presidents in the path. in 1992 they had an investigation and sixth days before the election you had four indictments, barr, by the way, was the acting attorney general that wrote for george h.w. bush the par don letters and clinton and comey. you cover it'd in the oval officer, they say are you worried about the mueller investigation, and he immediately says no, and he says what about the southern district, and he says i don't know about that. >> and he told mike the