there are three states, jeff greenfield, the swing states, florida, north carolina, and virginia thatlooks like north carolina's moved into romney's camp. florida, the obama people think they can still win it, but the poll suggests otherwise. virginia closes at 7:00, that's going to tell us a lot. >> but those two states, they're not southern in the way we think about southern. virginia is no longer the home of bogard picering iii. >> do not insult my friend. >> know your roots. you go on the other side of the potomac, you're in maryland, lobbyist country, lawyer country. and in florida, you know the old saying, the further north you go in florida, the further south you get. so that -- one of the reasons why obama has a chance, he carried both of those states four years ago, they're not southern in the way that the south and alabama, georgia, mississippi move solidly republican. demographically, they're very different. >> i would just say defense contractor country also. virginia, that defense pitch which is what the republicans, we had eric cantor on yesterday and what mitt romney ha