today we're talking with historian jeff kappa service, vice president, a political studies after the scan and center, and author of ro and ruined the downfall of moderation and the destruction of the republican party. jeff, it's a real pleasure to have you with me today to kind of help us understand what just happened in the us presidential election. so tell me from your perspective is, is this just a new chapter in american politics? well, it's a great pleasure to be with you, steve, and i have to say that i think this election could be seen in hindsight, as having been a re aligning election almost as important as the 1932 election that brought the new deal coalition to power undertaking right, and roosevelt, right, franklin roosevelt. exactly. because what we're seeing now is that the republican party is the party, not just the white working class, but of a multi racial, multi ethnic working class. we really have gotten into a situation where the electorate is polarized by degrees, and there are 2 thirds of the country that don't have a college degree. and they see themselves as re