>> yeah. >> you'll notice jeff koons isn't doing the sculpting or painting. to criticism including our own morley safer. >> 30 years ago morley did a story critiquing contemporary art and likened koons to a p.t. barnum selling to suckers. >> he doesn't actually paint or sculpt. he commissions craftsmen to do that and he goes shopping for basketballs or vacuum cleaners. >> is it a legitimate criticism? >> it's a legitimate criticism if you look at art in a way that you're kind of want everything to be done by the artist themselves. it becomes limited what you can do within one life if you are being responsible for everything. it's like the production of this program right now. anderson, if you had to be the lighting and for the editing. >> if i was responsible for the lighting, we wouldn't see you or myself. >> but if you had to be responsible for everything, how many programs would be you be able to create? i've designed, worked on the systems, so that the whole process, at the end of the day, it's as if every mark was made by mysyself. >> at 68, koons has re