go ahead, you are on with jeff kosseff. is, how doesestion cybersecurity correlate to poverty, because usually security threats are correlated with poverty or instability in countries, and how to cybersecurity relate to that specific thing? guest: i think there has always been a digital divide. this is separate from section is anut cybersecurity area i research and practice in. interesting thing on cybersecurity practices across the board have been very weak. part of that is a lack of training, education, which i personally think should be starting from the very early ages in elementary school and cyberchool, to develop hygiene practices so people might be less likely to click on a link or click on an attachment that could have does -- have devastating consequences for them and their employers. host: are there states that have created a program to do that in elementary school and high school? is there is one you would .22 do with the best? guest: it has been scattered -- would .2 to do with the best -- point to to do it the

go ahead, you are on with jeff kosseff. is, how doesestion cybersecurity correlate to poverty, because usually security threats are correlated with poverty or instability in countries, and how to cybersecurity relate to that specific thing? guest: i think there has always been a digital divide. this is separate from section is anut cybersecurity area i research and practice in. interesting thing on cybersecurity practices across the board have been very weak. part of that is a lack of training, education, which i personally think should be starting from the very early ages in elementary school and cyberchool, to develop hygiene practices so people might be less likely to click on a link or click on an attachment that could have does -- have devastating consequences for them and their employers. host: are there states that have created a program to do that in elementary school and high school? is there is one you would .22 do with the best? guest: it has been scattered -- would .2 to do with the best -- point to to do it the