and then copenhagen is jeff lazarus, professor of global health at c u. n. y graduate school of public health and health policy. he is also a full, i'm a senior technical officer, so communicable diseases for the world health organization. i will welcome uh, 2 or 3 of you. thank you very much for being here on inside storage. if i can. uh, begin with. you place being a full uh w, i, cio, employee. do you think that this is a confusing or conflicting message from the w? i chart, i mean, saying on one hand it's no longer a public health emergency, but also trying to convince people and governments around the world to still consider this a very real threat. it's a very confusing message for most people, some governments, but certainly for the general public. we have to remember that w h o declared the public health emergency of international concern in the context of the international health regulations. when there's a health threat that okay, that it's such a big risk to other countries in terms of spread of infection and mortality that it calls on countries t