it's going to be about life , about going to be about life, about rugby with jeff probyn, former tightheadd. cheers, jeff . thank you. legend. cheers, jeff. thank you. welcome to the program. now east end boy , growing up east end end boy, growing up east end there you no one. well okay that end of town growing up where football was utterly dominant and you you overcame childhood disease as well. >> yeah. when i was i came out of caesarian when i was born . a of caesarian when i was born. a couple of years later, i developed osteomyelitis , which developed osteomyelitis, which meant i had my legs in plaster when i was about two years old, was in hospital for a number of weeks and months. but fortunately i got over it and you clearly got over it. yeah. yeah. >> but when you when you come from a part of town where football is so dominant and what team you support, why was it rugby for you ? rugby for you? >> well, it wasn't literally, you know , i'd say that you were you know, i'd say that you were born in middle of shoreditch . born in middle of shoreditch. there's no rugby anywhere, no. si