[applause] >> now, jeff sachs. >> thanks very much, bob. let me add another thought to the discussion. we do not have a global economic crisis. not even close. we of course have a mess in the united states. we have a mess in greece. we have a crisis in spain. we have a crisis in some of the other countries of southern europe. we have crisis in ireland. but even within europe, there is no crisis in germany now. unemployment is at very low levels compared to the last couple of decades. there's no crisis in the netherlands, in denmark in finland, sweden, norway, northern europe is doing rather well. low budget deficits. rather high employment. very high prosperity. trade balance, surplus. if we look farther beyond the north atlantic, at the united states and western europe, then it's even less the case that there's a global crisis. after all, in asia, developing asia, meaning india, china, southeast asia -- economic growth rates are at unprecedentedly high levels by historical comparison. china has been growing, as you know, at a rate of about