he is the son of pastor jeff sangel.he church but i went to his house and talked to him there off camera. i asked him about the video now seen all over the world. and he said it's not what you think it is. i asked him to elaborate. he said his father would. i asked when that would happen and he said soon. the pastor's son also agreed with police that, indeed, there have been no credible threats against his father or the church. so we tried to ask permission once more to go in the church. >> please step off the premises. >> gary tuchman joins us live now. was it your impression that congregants were told not to talk to you? >> reporter: absolutely. this is a friendly part of the country, southern indiana. everybody wants to talk. but when people left this parking lot, their windows were up. they saw our camera and they zoomed by us. it was clear to us they were told inside this church not to talk to reporters outside. >> it is interesting how the pastors don't comment. did the pastor's son give an indication when he was g