jeff is unbelievably good. things to read. >> a bunch of bank ceos presenting today. solomon at their own conference. charlie scharf.oynihan, key. >> i think charley scharf is doing an unbelievable job. i saw tim sloan suing the bank. i understand that. he didn't get the bonus. >> tim sloan was the former ceo who got wrapped up in a lot of the scandals that were not of his own making. >> that's why i think -- i know tim. it seemed wrong to me, but at the same time wells fargo -- charley scharf, he inarted a bank i don't think he had any idea the things that were wrong, and he's been playing defense until this year. now he's playing offense. i really like what he's got going. >> he did say at the goldman conference, they still feel very good about their commercial real estate portfolio, borrowing office loans. remember, commercial is data centers. it's a lot of other things. warehouses. but office loans are not good. also said we expect to see losses in office loans in the fourth quarter. continued slow credit deterioration but no inflection point. it goes on to say we're cautious and careful and tightening credit on