recently there was a bill, a senate bill initiated by senator jeff stone, that touched upon i.c.d. codes, i.c.d.10 being included on prescriptions so that this facilitates processing of payment and authorization for treatments for patients. this all improves patient care. and so i think it's interesting that the study presented here today didn't include pharmacy but maybe they wouldn't have known how pharmacy would be the big role it would have now in the future, post the board to take into consideration, looking into senate bill 1240 that would help as far as providing the data for future study and evaluations. that's all i have, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, very much for that comment. you know, again, coming back from this meeting in new orleans, one of the areas where there's been an explosion of industry is pharmacy benefit management programs. and it's quite curious to me. again, in some of these workshops, some of the speakers argued against transparency. against transparency in the relationship of pharmacy benefit management programs and pharmaceutical manufacturer

. >> and, again, the quote from roger stone to jeff toobin ten years ago -- remind us again. >> it wasdeny everything, launch counterattack. i think we see that playing out here. >> you've been fantastic for hanging out with us. thank you so much. good to see you. >>> and thank you for being with me. hope you've had a wonderful thanksgiving, and hope you have lovely, safe long weekends. thanks for being with us here at cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. keep it right here. jim sciutto is in for jake tapper. "the lead" starts right now. >>> could president trump be exchanging his chief of staff this black friday? "the lead" starts right now. west wing clashes, tweets, and could it be capped off with another firing? >>> breaking today. another controversial figure possibly ready to flip and help robert mueller investigate the trump campaign. who he is and what he could know about the russians. >>> plus, throwing shade. the man who chronicled the obama years in pictures just keeps on trolling trump with a photo contrast every f

stone claimed to have advanced knowledge. >> exactly. so what does mueller believe of what he said. jeff, what is so fascinating? i remember interviewing roger stone the day after the president, you know, basically cutoff working ties with him, right? that he remains the confidant of the president that basically fired him. i didn't know what to believe. he admits to this puffery. could that actually help him? >> it could, actually. because, remember, the criminal investigation here relates to did stone make false statements when he's testified before congress denying any sort of contact with the russians or with wikileaks and the campaign. the question is was he actually in contact with wikileaks, as he certainly implied in those e-mails, or was he simply being the roger stone we all know, which is someone that puffs up his own importance. he's a b.s. artist, to use a technical term. the question is -- and as you point out, the fact that he's so well known for being someone who doesn't always tell the truth, that might actually help him get out of being charged here. >> jeffrey, we're not there yet, let's admit.

don junior, jeff sessions, jared kushner, corey lewandowski. >> roger stone. >> roger stone. again, that opens up again. >> yeah, we'll pour into the commercial break if you went through all the witnesses. >> what about tax returns. >> yes, that's one of the easiest things we can do through it the ways and means committee, chair will be able to request nem. we shouldn't do it for joyistic interest but to know if the president is corrupt. "the new york times" saying he's a tax sheet. if that relates to how he governs or domestic or foreign policy, we should know about it. >> will he give it up? >> he may fight it. it would go to the supreme court. the court will look at the law which plainly says if the chairperson of the ways and means complete requests it, he has to turn it over. >> matthew whitaker said there's an easy way for the president he believes, i don't know how easy it was, but a way he believes to get rid of the investigation. that's to starve it to death meaning starve it of funding. are you concerned about that? >> yes, but we are now in a position where that's

have told the same lie, and craig, a partial list of those people include jeff sessions, kushner, manafort, don junior, roger stoneller, steve bannon, michael cohen and others, and i suspect -- and i think we've already heard some reporting -- that there may be now a number of criminal referrals by the senate to my old office, the united states attorney's office for the district of columbia to consider possible perjury charges if any and all of those other individuals testified falsely the way himichael cohen did. >> tom, we just heard from congressman eric swalwell a few moments ago who indicated that they were, in fact, going back over some of the testimony that was given to the house committee. how concerned should some of the aforementioned be? the sessions, the bannon, the stone, how concerned should they be about lying to congress? >> it's always a concern because it's a crime. even if you're not sworn before congress, lying to congress is a crime the same way as if you were an fbi agent and we were talking about something that was being investigated and i lied to you. it doesn't matter whether i'm under oat

stone. he was not happy with jeff sessions. he's been very vocal about that for more than a year.en emasculating him politically. he's been vilifying him over twitter and in actual press conferences for quite some time. but he was very cautious not to fire mueller because there would be obvious political consequences, particularly during the midterm elections. so now he can say, i didn't fire mueller. i didn't touch mueller. i also didn't touch rod rosenstein. i have no issue with him following "the new york times" revelation that maybe the 25th amendment being talked about or him wearing a wire. i'm just going to replace the person who made it possible that rod rosenstein would have his position and mueller would have oversight by that person. and so by putting matthew whitaker in the position, which by the way is not in line of succession. it would naturally go to the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, then to a solicitor general. the chief of staff or the a.g. is not the person who is supposed to be in line. so one has to first wonder by what authority he's going to put h

stone. he was not happy with jeff sessions. he's been very vocal about that for more than a year.en emasculating him politically. he's been vilifying him over twitter and in actual press conferences for quite some time. but he was very cautious not to fire mueller because there would be obvious political consequences, particularly during the midterm elections. so now he can say, i didn't fire mueller. i didn't touch mueller. i also didn't touch rod rosenstein. i have no issue with him following "the new york times" revelation that maybe the 25th amendment being talked about or him wearing a wire. i'm just going to replace the person who made it possible that rod rosenstein would have his position and mueller would have oversight by that person. and so by putting mathew whitaker in the position, which by the way is not in line of succession. it would naturally go to the deputy attorney general, rod rosenstein, then to a solicitor general. the chief of staff or the a.g. is not the person who is supposed to be in line. so one has to first wonder by what authority he's going to put hi

jeff flake set sickening. >> and hagel was talking about troops shooting migrants throwing stones, and we have many saying you are asking the u.s. troops to do that? >> that's a moral horror at what the president is saying. and there's also a political problem that the president may be backing into which some republicans pointed out. by not campaigning on his objective strength and doubling down on fear and anger to rally the base, he puts a lot of suburban districts in real risk because that kind of talk doesn't benefit republicans. the far left of the party is not where america is on immigration, and that said the president escorting a real backlash by doubling down on the extreme positions on immigration and language that has made republican senators and secretaries say that's way too much. >> the republican strategist know they will get called out for the lies and for the racism, but to me they made a bet that it doesn't matter, they don't care. maybe in some cases they want it and are inviting this debate. >> reporter: i think the point is to have the conversation and argument and to have the fight, and

a visit the smithsonian them to learn about stone carvings created in trenches and bunkers by world war i soldiers and only recently rediscovered. 's dr. jeff gusky, the photographs are featured in the exhibit. >> hello, my name is dr. jeff gusky, i am a national geographic photographer, explore and television host. welcome to the smithsonian national air and space museum. this is an exhibit on world war i, commemorating the 100 year anniversary of world war i. the space that i am standing in front of is a large underground city. we are seeing a small segment of this vast space, which once held up to 4000 world war i soldiers. it was occupied initially by the french and then the germans and in the french took it back, and then the americans. thehis place, soldiers from main national guard, which is part of the achy division, lived underground for almost a two months. what is remarkable about this particular place, and you can see this in the smithsonian channel documentary called americans underground, the sacred city of world war i, which was filmed in this place under a french farm field, felipe -- completely unprotected, unmarked, in the

stone wall the release of the report. >> or choke it off in terms of funding. jeff, if there was a blood pressure meter, you might have one to measure in terms of what the president might be going through now. there's all these items that we discussed. let's add in this to the stew. there's julian assange and that mistake that was made appears in the cop by pasy paste and how t might be adding to the tension when talk about the russia case. fill that out for us and what the implications might be. >> it was donald trump who famously during the campaign said i love wikileaks. it was wikileaks that released the hacked e-mails of the dnc. this is another situation. sort of like when it comes to vladmir putin where the president said one thing but his administration acts in a different way. the secretary of state, mike pompeo, back when he was head of the cia referred to wikileaks as an intelligence, a nefarious intelligence organization. jeff sessions said that julian assange was a top target of his. they tried to bring case against limb. we'll have to see how this enti

republicans gauge support for a bill to diffuse a fight with jeff flake who is holding up judicial nominees to keep the probe intact. rob: roger stoner to the 2016 election. jillian: stone speaking out the fox news saying the russia probe is a distraction. >> political gossip became criminalized. everybody in america wanted to know after assange had these on june and in fox, what exactly it was he had but there is no flow of information. i received no emails. the entire russia collusion delusion is meant to distract us from the fact the obama administration and fbi were using illegal unconstitutional warrants despite donald trump's campaign. there is a need to distract those things so we point to donald trump and russian collusion which doesn't exist to. rob: he is one of the president's harshest critics but it does look like chuck schumer could be warming up to real border security. >> we offer strong border security. the $1.6 billion for border security negotiated by democrats and republicans is our position. we believe that is the right way to go. we are not negotiating in the press, this is our position. rob: the president wants

a roger stone associate, who has been challenging his subpoena issued by the special counsel, robert mueller's team. we're hearing this could be impacted by the firing of attorney general jeff let's go to sarah murray, who is with me outside of federal court there insarah, what's the story? >> reporter: we're here today because one of stone's associates is trying to quash his subpoena and his lawyers are challenging mueller's authority on constitutional grounds. it's interesting to do that the day after the attorney general got a new job. one of the judges instructed the attorneys that they had to argue this case as if it was yesterday, before jeff sessions was ousted from his position and before matt whitaker was put in charge of the russia investigation. they said in light of yesterday's events, they would likely require supplemental briefing. one of the challenges that andrew miller's attorney is making is that mueller is essentially this unsupervised agent with wide prosecutorial power, which is a little bit difficult to argue at this point when he has a new boss. brooke? >> i'm sure it is. stay on it. thank you so much. let's continue on here. >> announcer: this is cnn

national air and space museum to learn about stone carvings created in trenches of bunkers by world war i soldiers and only recently rediscovered. our god is dr. jeff -- our jeff guskey, whose photographs are featured in the exhibit. dr. gusky: hello, my name is dr. jeff gusky and i am a national geographic photographer. welcome to the smithsonian national air and space museum and to artist soldiers commemorating world war i. and its 100th anniversary. the space i am standing in front of is a large underground city. we are just seeing a small segment of this vast space, which once held up to 4000 world war i soldiers. it was occupied initially by the french and then the german and then the french took it back and then the americans. and, in this space, soldiers from the main national guard, part of the yankee division, lived underground for almost two months. and, what is remarkable about this particular place, and you can see this on the smithsonian channel documentary called "americans underground," which was filmed in this space which exists under a french farm field, completely unprotected, unmarked, in the middle of nowhere, in the raw. you en

stone tried to intimidate a witness. that's the context of the retiring senator jeff flake that would force a vote. trump says he can fire the special counsel. he thinks he has that better. nbc reported that trump wanted to fire mueller in 2017. mitch mcconnell plblocking that vote. >> i talk to the president fairly often. no indication that the mueller investigation will not will allowed to finish. he's never said he wants to shut it down. i think it's in no danger so i don't think any legislation -- >> senator flake responded to mcconnell by threaten to block the 21 judicial nominees currently pending. i'm joined by a former u.s. attorney and maya wiley. joyce, your view of the stone news. >> well, the stone news is very interesting. it's always seemed like he had a big target on his back and would likely be where mueller is going flexio next. the interesting thing is there's a lot about obstruction. we're not hearing much in the way of leaks about whether mueller is looking at charging stone with substantive violations that might be the link between russia and the trump campaign. that's what all

jeff zeleny reporting. >>> any plea deal may be in the works involving this man, jerome cor corsi, an associates of roger stone. he says that he is in plea negotiations with robert mueller and expects to be indicted for lying. for more, here is alex. >> reporter: the fact that he is working on a plea deal is a possible sign that robert mueller and his team think core city has something quite significant to share. it is a big development that could give the russia probe a crucial missing link in the investigation into collusion with russia, specifically linking wikileaks and hacked democratic e-mails that they dumped to the trump campaign. xor ci core city hs city -- corsi says expected to be indicted by mueller for lying. >> the entire negotiation of discussions has just blown up and i fully anticipate that the next few days i would be indicted by mueller for some form or other of giving false information to the special counsel or to one of the other grand jury or whomever they want to do the indictment. but i'm going to be criminally charged. >> reporter: many people may not have erd will of c och-- heard cos

jeff sessions, michael flynn, remember that guy? michael cohen, paul manafort, george papadopoulos, currently in prison, carter page, roger stone.nd of course the lie, the big lie about having any business dealings in russia. >> i mean, have i nothing to do with russia. i don't have any jobs in russia. i'm all over the world, but we're not involved in russia. >> i've had audits for 15 or 16 years. every year i have a routine audit. under audit, when the audit is complete, i'll release them. but zero. i will tell you right now, zero. have i nothing to do with russia. >> that's july 27th, 2016, it turns out that his surrogates were discussing the moscow tower deal just like a month earlier. today we found out trump was looking at business deals with russia during the campaign and after russia had hacked into the dnc. the president and his associates have repeatedly and voraciously lied about russia from the start, so what happens now that is all catching up with them? next. tailored recommendations, tax-efficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor to help you grow and protect your wealth. fidelity wealth management. ( ♪

stone that he had insights intoes s es sa plan. >>> the justice department offered several reasons why the firing of jeff sessions doesn't violateen 160 instances in which nonsenate -- the officials also argued that even before sessions' forced resignation it had advised the white house that the president could lawfully name whittaker as attorney general. if the position stands whittaker would be allowed to serve roughly seven months in the role or potentially longer. meanwhile a judge has set a hearing for next month on the state of maryland's lawsuit challenging whittaker's appointment and seeking to have deputy attorney general rod rosenstein named as the acting attorney general. in his first public speech as acting attorney general yesterday, whittaker jokingly addressed his appointment. >> one thing hasn't changed in all of this change at the department of justice. you may have heard. there's been a change or two at the department of justice. the trump administration will always be a hlaw and order administration. we recognize public safety ast important priority. >>> mike pence and vladimir putin are attending the east asi

stone. and it's certainly further evidence of why the president has tried so desperately over the past year and especially since firing jeff sessions to try to shut do ywn the mueller investigation all together. we ought to be protecting it, ought to on behalf of the american people make sure he completes his work so we get to the bottom of exactly what happened. >> and moving on to jim comey, you sit on the house judiciary committee. republicans on your committee have subpoenaed the former fbi director and former attorney general, loretta lynch, to testify behind closed doors. some democrats are calling this a political stunt. how do you see it? >> yeah. well, it's a political stunt, and it's a bad one, at that. the leadership of the house judiciary committee clearly -- they clearly weren't paying attention to what happened on election day. they didn't get the memo. they didn't -- they failed to understand even after the sweeping indictment against the way that this committee and this administration has handled things these past two years, that still they want to conduct hearings in private, focusing on hillary clinton so

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jeff zeleny, thank you very much. >>> joining us now, democratic congressman john garamendi. congressman, thanks for joining us. let me get your thoughts on this roger stone ally, jerome corsi, now says publicly he expects to be indicted as early as this week. what would that mean for mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the trump campaign and the russians? >> it's just coming closer and closer to the campaign and quite probably to the president himself. one shoe after another keeps falling here. the result of it is this investigation is moving forward. and we should make it very, very clear that the president through his new acting attorney general cannot, must not stop this investigation. it is absolutely critical to our democracy to understand exactly what russia did and if there is any collusion, then let it be. let's find out what happened. >> you expect more indictments, potentially roger stone, a long-time donald trump ally, indictments in the coming days and weeks? >> that has been festering for months. roger stone said in his own interviews on television that he was aware of assange and wikileaks and what was going on there. al

jeff zeleny, reporting for us. >>> also tonight, a new plea deal may be in the works in robert mueller's russia investigation. an associate of trump ally roger stoneesting that he's entering into talks with the special counsel just days after declaring that he expected robert mueller to indict him. our political correspondent sara murray is joining us right now. sara, what is going on with this stone associate? >> reporter: well, wolf, that's what we're waiting to find out. you know, we know that the attorney for jerome corsi has been in regular contact with the special counsel's office, but the big question is what happens next. one thing we do know is that jerome corsi was out there talking about this very publicly. it is not the case today. >> and i expect there's can go to be historic -- >> reporter: jerome corsi is back in no comment mode as he prepares to be indicted in special counsel robert mueller's russia probe. the author, conspiracy theorist and associate of roger stone announcing on his web cast that he is bracing for charges. >> now i fully anticipate in the new fee days i will be indicted by mueller for some form or other of giving

stone lied to the house intelligence committee during his testimony before the committee last year. >> the bipartisan bill was blocked today. tell us about that. >> reporter: this is a bill that's been pushed by jeff flake, the arizona republican be p they have be . they have been trying to get a vote on this for months. republican leaders have resisted that. they prevented a vote from happening on the floor of the senate today. mitch mcconnell made it clear that he does not believe that there's any reason to doing this because believes robert mueller is safe. he's had conversations with the white house believing that's the case. he doesn't want to eat up anymore floor time. this had significant ramifications because jeff flake has threatened to with hold his vote on any judicial nominations going forward until the special counsel bill comes for a vote. he votes against a controversial district court judge that barely advanced? the sena -- in the senate. they had to scrape tomorrow because of jeff flake's position. they may have to give him a vote on the floor if they want to get a number of these nominees confirmed. that still has very little chance of passing the senate much less getting signed

stone's truthfulness, under oath before our committee, and that evidence should be provided to the special counsel. >> i should note in the other house of congress in the senate today jeff -- and senator flake are attempting to bring to the floor a bill that was written and co-sponsored, and they were objected to by leader mcconnell. see how that goes. congressman adam schiff, thank you very much. >>> let's bring in jill wine-banks, and nick akerman, nick, i'll start with you, what is roger stone doing, to your mind, watching his behavior, the interviews sort of selectively leaking different, you know, messages, changing his story, what's he doing? >> i think he's -- he knows he's in trouble, he knows he's a key target of this investigation. i think he knows he's going to be indicted. he's definitely going to be one of the people. he's already been named by virtue of his messages with the 13 russians. roger stone is a little bit crazy. >> like a fox. >> exactly. this is more of a pr thing because roger stone is directly connected to only one person in this entire thing, and that is donald trump. he's the one that basically talked trump into running for president, has be

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jeff flake to push a bill to protect mueller as special counsel. this as mueller's probe has appeared to expand. the daily beast reporting the special counsel's team is looking into hanna. and conservative author roger stone associate jerome corsey publicly says he expects to be indicted by mueller's team as well for allegedly lying. with all of that, i'd like to welcome in my panel. white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire. washington anchor for bbc news, catty kay and msnbc contributor betsy woodruff. in london, presidential historian and author doris kearns goodwin. i want to start with you and your latest reporting on the mueller investigation. this has been a week of basically trying to collect and pull at all these different threads and we've watched the president almost emotionally navigate it in public without a full understanding of what's going on behind the scenes. where do we stand? >> there are a couple different baskets we know he's looking into. the saudi arabia -- influence from saudi and united arab emirates. and then the broader traditional donald trump white house basket and there could be lots more we don't know about. the more reporting we do on the mueller inves