former sheriff in arizona, and gloria borger and jeff tuben is back. you've seen this first hand. how big a shift is this? >> this is significant. i remind people, everybody needs to ratchet it down a couple notches, because nothing's changed in the law. what's happening is the law's going to be enforced, and the president is setting very clear priorities for guidance or direction to those who enforce the law. and it's targeted, centered around the criminal element. there's, some people say 11, some people say 14 million illegals who are here. the president, very specifically, is targeting the criminal element, the million plus, 74% of which have felony convictions. and he's right to do that. and what's noticeable, when you're talking to secretary castro, now i hear this countless times, and it makes me sick quite honestly, the fact that they're divorced from reality. they have compassion for everyone else, yet i never hear them talk about the steve ronnenbacks, whose son has been murdered in my state. the maryann mendoza, whose son has been murdered. you've met these people. they

joining us also is jeffrey tuben. jeffngressional and criminal investigations very different things. >> they are very different things, but one thing to keep in mind is that when nixon was forced out of office, when clinton was impeached, congress, the house of representatives, was in control of the opposition party. and here republicans control the house of representatives. and they are not inclined to investigate donald trump, and you see that throughout these three weeks that we have seen, and i think that's a major distinction that will help trump. >> it sounds the senate is more willing to look into it than house republicans. >> well, not to be too cynical or uncynical. there's a lot to look into here. i mean, the russians may have controlled or attempted to control the outcome of this election with the involvement of the trump campaign. that's a pretty big deal. i think there's some patriots in the senate of both parties who think this is worth looking into and that's what they're doing. >> the president is focusing