. >> hi, jeff vaughn i'm at protective intelligence analysts for stratford. much of the talk has been dominated by the election hacking and information warfare producing an increasing number of hacks in western europe and ukraine which are remarkably sophisticated and growing which are targeting at the structure and appear to be almost someones disruption on a kinetic level shutting down the structure. last year ukraine got hit by crash override which was in adaptation of the stupak. while we are seeing this disinformation and propaganda of the surface is russia investing heavily in these kinetic cyber weapons which could he deployed whenever they feel it's necessary? >> thanks for your brevity. we now have time for one more question. let's go to the question right here. >> thank you for your good work sir. can you clarify, because the science quadrants are they reporting to the gru or is there a special defense agency that they are reporting to? >> it is separate. quadrants by the minister of defense or some other part of the defense. >> so they are separate

. >> hi, jeff vaughn i'm at protective intelligence analysts for stratford. much of the talk has been >> about russian hackers has been dominated about the election hacking, information warfare, and propaganda, but over the last couple of years we've seen an increasing number of hacks in western europe and ukraine which are remarkably so he fis indicated and someone testing how to cause mass disruption on a kinetic level. last year ukraine got hit by crash override which has an adaptation of the stew tex which disrupted the iran yab program. my sqquestion is while we're seeing these on the surface, is russia also investigating heavily in these cyber ka net ticks to deploy when they feel it's necessary? >> i think yes. >> okay. that's for that. we now have time for one more question. let's go to this question right here. >> yes, please. >> thank you for your good work, sir. can you clarify because of the science squadrons, are they reporting to the gru or is there a special other defense agency that they're reporting to? >> yeah. it's separate squad drons or s