i have more respect for jeff zucker here at cnn who says we're not going to put them up there because i do for the guys at "the new york times" saying we won't put them up there because we don't believe gratuitous religious insults. really really? "the new york times" did a great job insulting my religion over the years. >> cnn has boots on the ground everywhere so i too, understand that although i've said to jeff zucker myself there would be strength in numbers if everyone were to follow a cnn lead. by the way, some of these things were god-awful. >> exactly right. >> some of these things i wouldn't want to put on television. >> that's what i'm objecting to. >> i worry if you don't give the public a little taste then they have no idea what we're talking about. and i don't want to yield to these guys. >> i think we can graphically describe it. i think people are adults they can understand what's going on. when you talk about scatological commentary i don't want to get too explicit, but that's the kind of stuff i think is unnecessary not just for muslims, for everybody. why do we have

according to news reports, head of cnn jeff zucker said among other things he had deliberations withots of employees about the decision including muslim employees and including employees in hot spots around the world. i found that interesting. you've got to think about how big an organization like cnn or bbc or al jazeera are. when they are thinking about those decisions, they are thinking about so many people aren't they? >> they are. they are quite right to do that talk to their employees. we talked a long time about diversity in the newsroom when you have diversity living side by side journalistic decisions it's rough. look the journalist in me says put it all out there, but that applies to everything. then you take into consideration what your responsibility is how you -- can you tell the story in other ways. it's interesting, "washington post," marty bar ron, executive editor went and published this. they said our policy is to avoid publication that's pointedly offensive to members of religious groups. that remains our policy but this does not fall into that category. your old e