i understand jeff zucker was at this event and apparently people shouted at him a little bit. but the more important question is if you collude with the clinton campaign and you feed her questions before a town hall, you ask the dnc for questions against your candidate, donald trump, that seems to me like a fake news organization. you know, do they deserve a seat in the white house pressroom? >> as i said last night, the biggest piece of fake news in this entire election cycle is that donald trump couldn't win. >> that's big news. >> that was pedalled quite a bit, pretty much on every network. but jeff zucker from cnn took the most fire from the republican presidential campaign managers who did not win. they felt that giving that coverage basically stem to stern coverage of all of donald trump's rallies throughout the campaign cost their candidates presh air time. that's how they came after him. others were attacking jeff zucker for having some of our spokes people on there saying they should not have been allowed on because they weren't telling the truth. if you see what thei

jeff zucker from cnn took the most fire from the republican presidential campaign managers who did notin. they felt that giving that coverage basically, basically the coverage of all of donald trump's throughout the primary cost their candidates precious air time. that's how they came after him. others were attacking jeff zucker for having some of our spokes people on there saying they should not have been allowed on because they weren't telling the truth when, wow, if you see what some of their paid analysts say day in and day out, i would remind all of your viewers no one on tv is ever under oath. almost all goes in the same direction. it is very simple. there are people part of the permanent campaign. they can't get over the fact donald trump won. by the way, it wasn't a squeaker. you know what started the argument yesterday? team clinton going back to the popular vote. i said, hey, all of your graphics and all of your fancy packages that said road to 270, not road to the popular vote. you ran the same and we got -- donald trump won 30 of 50 states, he flimd over 50 counties that ba

things people were shouting at jeff zucker about, he doesn't want to be called on the fact he doesn'tcare about that. >> he said he won in a landslide. what does he mean? >> no, he lost the popular vote. if you look at the list of -- >> they cheered him. because i think it's like -- i'm not a mead ucritic. at fox, they say we're fair and balanced. that's not what they mean. they mean we balance out the liberal media. we know what they mean. i get the feeling it's not a dog whistle. it's like you know what they're really saying. trump talks in this language, it's not that he really did. it's like screw you. i didn't win in a landslide, but i'm going to say it. do they think they won in a landslide? >> i they think some of them do. >> you could say i won 30 states and more. >> here's your case study, chris. the other day, he said millions of people voted illegally in the race. now, that's not true. >> yeah. >> his campaign cited studies that didn't say that. on cnn yesterday, had this wonderful video. i hate to tout a competitor, in which one of the reporters talked to trump voters and

and jeff zucker. okay. >> i didn't name names!you. >> but we know what you were talking about. >> look -- >> most appalling? >> look, it started on the very first day when he came down that escalators and he said that mexican immigrants were racist and it went on and on, through the kane family. it was appalling but also fascinating that the clinton campaign became their bright shining object and they were in a kind of one-dimensional argument that he was unfit to be president. i happened to agree with that, but i live in los angeles. they needed to make a broader argument. >> so he thinks that it was all appalling, all the way back to may of 2015 -- >> i just said there were a number of events that occurred during that campaign on his part that were pretty appalling. >> mike, give me a most appalling moment in 2016. go. >> i'll lump them together. it was the debates because a roman circus shit show. >> you can't say that on t.v.! >> yes, you can. >> i was appalled. >> you know what's going to happen now? this show's going to go o

republican campaign managers heckled cnn president jeff zucker. pollster nate silver came in for some heckling. there was a lot of tension. i think it really shows how raw these divides still are. it certainly sends a little bit of a foreboding sign for our politics going forward. it doesn't feel like there's going to be an awful lot of kumbaya moments in our surprised. >> monica, you surprised the clinton camp is still so bitter? >> they are so bitter. i was talking to people on the trump transition, people who served on the campaign. i think they're surprised it remains so raw. the challenge for a president-elect donald trump -- and this was one of his core messages during the campaign -- is that he was going to try to unify the country, bring everybody together. i think the one way, the most effective way for him to do that is create a booming economy. critics. >> all right, panel, we have to take a break. >>> when we come back, president-elect trump's allies go to court to block recounts in three states. we'll talk to green party we elves love

probably he gave someone or multiple people in the room some form of shellacking not unlike he did to jeff zuckerhen he did media roundtable a few months ago. melissa: sounds like you're not a fan. >> i knew you were going to say that. his view what he wants to say to the economy, done on floor of new york stock exchange, it is right view. the market vote with his index, allowing for repatriation of cash, corporate tax cuts, bringing jobs back to the u.s., the market is in favor. i have more balanced opinions. i think i have a more he. melissa: like what? he was bashing last time, reports came out people said this didn't happen about the back and forth with media that came in. you would like them to just start a twitter war with the president? >> i mean, i have analyzed this. i think that trump doesn't like it when you personally attack him. but when you fight on topic it engenders a form of respect. kellyanne conway one much his most trusted advisors going out on twitter fighting against romney. example i'm giving all day, said something tim cook should manufacture iphones in the u.s., tim cook

things that other republicans are shouting at jeff zucker about at the event in harvard last night.want to be called on the fact that he doesn't care about that. >> he said he won in a landslide. what does he mean? >> no, if you look at the list of -- >> i think it's like -- i'm not a media critic. at fox they say things we're fair and balanced. everybody knows that's not what they mean, they mean we balance out the liberal media. i get defenders, not a dog whistle, you know what they're really saying. trump talks in this language of, screw you, language. >> no, but -- >> they're going to share that. >> they think they won in a landslide? >> i think some of them do. >> oh, come on. >> hey, you can say i won 30 states and more. >> here's your case study, chris. the other day he said millions of people voted illegally in the race. now, that's not true. his campaign cited studies that didn't say that. the people who wrote the studies. and then on cnn yesterday, had this wonderful video, i hate to tout a competitor, in which one of the reporters talked to the trump supporters and said,

republican strategists heckled cnn president jeff zucker about his coverage.at one point, kellyanne conway, one of trump's campaign managers, she heckled nate silver, who is, of course, the pollster. there's a lot of raw feelings. not only between republicans and democrats, but also between both parties and the media about how pollsters conducted themselves. there was a lot of sort of existential angst about whether the traditional rules of politics still apply. does ground game matter, does big money, fund-raising matter? and there weren't any firm conclusions on that, but one thing that everyone seemed to agree on is it simply didn't matter in the race. donald trump was just rose above, broke through all those rules. >> kasie hunt, at least we're talking. >> we are. >> we're out of time, but great to see both of you. kasie hunt and lisa lehrer. >> coming up, who is the mad dog mattis? james "mad dog" mattis, barry mccaffrey knows him well and joins us next. >> plus, the traffic altercation that turned deady for a former nymph player. the latest incident of r

. >> two votes for judge curiel, one for the "access hollywood" tape and jeff zucker.king about. bob, what appalled you? most appalling. >> look, it started on the very first day when he came down the escalator and said mexicans were rapists. the problem was it was appalling but it was also fascinating and mesmerizing to the clinton campaign. it became their bright shining object. they kind of ran a one-kim mention al argument that he was unif it to be president. i agree with that, but i live in los angeles. they needed to make a broader argument. >> everything he did, dating back before 2016, all the way back to may of 2015. >> no, i just said there were a number of events that occurred during that campaign. on his part that were pretty appalling. >> mike, give me most appalling moment in 2016. go. >> i'll lump them together. it was the debates becoming an applause meter roman circus show. that was the worst moment of the whole campaign in the primary. >> you can't say that on tv. >> yes, you can. >> you can now. >> and i was smiling when i said it. >> mike murphy, yo

you know, like jeff zucker who said that trump was profitable for them, even if he was bad for america. at the same time, trump has engaged in this practice of threatening journalists or, you know, including threatening to reveal personal information about them, including some msnbc. which has been i think effective at shaping public discourse. and so the end result of this is that people make political decisions based on the information that they have available to them. and trump and his team doing everything to shape the information to object few skate into how they make that decision. twitter has been kind of a double-edged sword. an effective way for trump to get his message out because the media often takes his tweets and writes entire stories about them without bothering to correct factual errors. but it's also been a place of resistance. a place where people have been able to critique trump. and so in that sense, i think it poses the danger to the administration, and so i'm not surprised that trump would signal twitter as a source of, you know, resistance and one that, you know,

> remember what we reported when network heads weren't to meet with him and what heed to say to jeff zuckernd cnn. i would love to be a fly on the wall to hear what he has to say to this fella now. this is as man who called him a threat to democracy a few months ago. "the washington post" today, four hits today, and they will probably have four hits tomorrow. it's militantly anti-trump. trump doesn't back down from anyone. they are suppose to be talking tech issues and jobs. i'll put money on the fact he will give him the back of his hand. stuart: this is the president of the united states of america going after possibly one company. he's done it before, he may be doing it tomorrow. do you approve? >> barack obama spent 8 years going after fox news, even though fox news on a regular basis reached out to barack obama and his team for story after story that they did on him. but you have got "the washington post" and the head of the "washington post" attacking donald trump as a threat to democracy which is something no one at fox ever did. fit was okay for obama to go after fox, it's certainly