and though with jeff zucker told him that to drop the investigative journalism only focus on russia and said it was all about money. >> guest: then in the secret corridors of elevators but with extreme public interest to show i will never go into someone's bedroom. he was an eternal -- attorney general of maryland. to avoid the personal sexual nature of his life but talking matters of extreme they used to win pulitzer prizes. they rented a bar in chicago for year and put hitting cameras for one year at this bar in 1975 i believe in the recorded all these conversations in wrote about them they got bribes and kickbacks. so it is a powerful tool in the responsibility and have to use it sparingly bullet that deception then get the anonymous sources. we don't even know what they are saying to the new york times we cannot see that or read their inclination we have to trust the reliability of the is tuition -- to institutions. >> how much does project veritas going right now?. >> i cannot say that. our main target is the media and i will tell your audience when never made a promise i always de

this is exactly why crowds at the trump rally like we saw last night -- hey, don and jeff zucker, they were chanting at you.y, take a listen. [chanting "cnn sucks"] [chanting "cnn sucks"] >> sean: yeah,cn cnn sucks. have you guys ever thought that maybe those people, maybe they are t sending a message? hey cnn, are you proud of the lies and the garbage being spewed on your network day in and day out, hour in and hour out? guess what, jeff? you own this rhetoric and the lies that your network tells. up next is the deranged conspiracy theories spreadingng fake news. leftists and ideologues over at msnbc. take a look. >> it's a unique situation have a president go out to the american public on live television and lie this way. >> members publicly andt privatelyy are acknowledging tht this guy is a basket case. he cannot leave the party. in his heart, he does stand with white supremacists. >> a rhetorical disaster. not only for this country but also for even though he just will never understand it, his long-term political health. >> deeply disturbing, the waywie spoke of the media. what ab