joining me now jefferies wealth management laurie goodman it's good to have you. hi.uch for. >> having me. also really your your focus, your wheelhouse. you also say stay liquid, which is interesting because people think of alts as not exactly the most liquid place to be. so reconcile that for. >> me. >> that's true. that's true. well. >> there's a range. >> of. liquidity within. >> alts. right? >> so if you're if you're thinking. about the more liquid end of the spectrum, you can talk about hedge funds. there's definitely liquid places in private credit. there's even some relatively liquid places in infrastructure going all the way out on the spectrum. >> to private. >> equity. >> longer duration, private credit, etc. >> what's your favorite area of alts? if you had to pick one, do you have one right now? >> no, i don't. >> i really look at things from a bottom up perspective. we're trying to find. >> more esoteric strategies and. >> really, i mean. >> the topic. >> of the day you've been talking about is what's going on with tariffs. >> and. >> what's it. >> going.