and politics there, as well as the governor and a lot of state workers, so you might want to do jefferson citying to target the base of say, senator mccaskill, then you might want to go to st. louis or kansas city. if you're trying to target the base of a republican senator, you might go to springfield, which is a very important republican city in the district. so you want to pick the place where the individuals would have the most impact on them and where you're audience is. then when is the most effective time to run the ads? one of the challenges in trying to run the ads, to either persuade, inform, or do anything before the vote, is figuring out when the vote is going to be. because the senate has no rules, and the number one rule of the senate is everything will happen later than they say it will, and so figuring out the timing is really important. you don't want to go too early, because then it will get lost in further traffic, and if you run it two months before, no one is going to remember. you don't want to run it right before the vote, because the person may have made up their mind b

and politics there, as well as the governor and a lot of state workers, so you might want to do jefferson cityre trying to target the base of say, senator mccaskill, then you might want to go to st. louis or kansas city. if you're trying to target the base of a republican senator, you might go to springfield, which is a very important republican city in the district. so you want to pick the place where the individuals would have the most impact on them and where you're audience is. then when is the most effective time to run the ads? one of the challenges in trying to run the ads, to either persuade, inform, or do anything before the vote, is figuring out when the vote is going to be. because the senate has no rules, and the number one rule of the senate is everything will happen later than they say it will, and so figuring out the timing is really important. you don't want to go too early, because then it will get lost in further traffic, and if you run it two months before, no one is going to remember. you don't want to run it right before the vote, because the person may have made up their

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and politics there, as well as the governor and a lot of state workers, so you might want to do jefferson city. if you're trying to target the base of say, senator mccaskill, then you might want to go to st. louis or kansas city. if you're trying to target the base of a republican senator, you might go to springfield, which is a very important republican city in the district. so you want to pick the place where the individuals would have the most impact on them and where you're audience is. then when is the most effective time to run the ads? one of the challenges in trying to run the ads, to either persuade, inform, or do anything before the vote, is figuring out when the vote is going to be. because the senate has no rules, and the number one rule of the senate is everything will happen later than they say it will, and so figuring out the timing is really important. you don't want to go too early, because then it will get lost in further traffic, and if you run it two months before, no one is going to remember. you don't want to run it right before the vote, because the person may have made

from jefferson city, this is about 50 minutes. >> thank you. thank you.ourians. it is a pleasure to be here and i am blessed to have with me my wife, georgia ann. [applause] and our two sons, and jeremiah and will. [applause] one year ago, as we gathered in this very room, and massive ice storm struck southern missouri. miles of power lines went down, plunging tens of thousands of people into bitter cold and darkness. i will never forget what i saw in the days and weeks following. everywhere i went, people of every color and creed were joining hands to help their neighbors. they brought blankets and home cooked meals. they came with chain saws and pickup trucks. they turned school gyms and church basements into havens of warmth and safety. they did not ask how anybody vote it. they did not care who was rich or poor. they came together in a crisis because, my friends, that is what the people of missouri do. [applause] that is a powerful lesson for us here tonight. the worst of times brings out the best in us. when the people of missouri join hands and work

from jefferson city, this is 50 minutes. [applause] >> thank you.ichard, president shield, leaders callahan, state officials, members of the general assembly, and members of my cabinet. welcome. it is a privilege to be here this evening. i am blessed to have with me missouri's first wife, my wife georgeann. and our two sons, jeremiah and will. one year ago, as they gathered in this very room, and massive ice storms struck southern missouri. miles of power lines went down, plunging tens of thousands of people into bitter cold and darkness. i will never whoops forget what assault in the days and weeks to follow. everywhere i went, people of every color and creed were joining hands to help their neighbors. they brought blankets and home cook to mills. and they came a chain saws and trucks. they turned school gyms and church basements into havens of warmth and safety. they did not ask how anyone voted. they did not care who was rich or poor. they came together in a crisis. that is what the people of missouri do. [applause] that is a powerful lesson for

jefferson's concept of the capital city was a city that would remind people of ancient rome or athens. and the architect of the supreme court was very, very comfortable with that idea. although modern architecture reflected people like frank lloyd wright, who would have done something very different, i think that gilbert and have felt jefferson's idea, better than a school of architecture that might have ended up just being a fad. >> it is a little bit more than $10 million. >> it was actually a deflation. they were able to finish it and turn $100,000 over, so it came in under budget. it might have been the only government building in history that came in under budget. he was thoroughly familiar with the plants, and i think he died quite happy with the building that he knew was going to be built. he and the architect, cass gilbert, they corresponded regularly and calorically -- catholic lay. and when taft was president, he had appointed gilbert to a fine arts commission at the capitol. so gilbert knew what it was about, and he knew what visions jefferson had had. some of the justices

jefferson came over to france to replace franklin as ambassador. the war had been won by this time and franklin decided he was quite a role man by this time he ought to go home cities and jefferson over. jefferson our lives in paris and goes to franklin's house and there's franklin on the lawn and three or four beautiful french women are not here and they are kissing him and he is kissing them and franklin, excuse me, jefferson finally raises his hand and says dr. franklin and he gets his attention and this would it be possible to transfer these privileges to the new ambassador and franklin says you are too young of a man. [laughter] to me that convinces me of what i've been saying that nothing was happening. he really didn't do much damage as these ladies. >> host: the was also no evidence in any of the documentation that he found in terms of diaries or any other that anyone else claimed to have been involved in. >> guest: one of my best friends of the franklin peepers and yale told me for 30 years she had read every diary, letter, newspaper story, anything that was evidence that said anything about franklin and france she never found one line the suggested there

jefferson's concept of the capital city was a city that would remind people of ancient rome or athens. and the architect of the supreme court was very, very comfortable with that idea. although modern architecture reflected people like frank lloyd wright, who would have done something very different, i think that gilbert and have felt jefferson's idea, better than a school of architecture that might have ended up just being a fad. >> it is a little bit more than $10 million. >> it was actually a deflation. they were able to finish it and turn $100,000 over, so it came in under budget. it might have been the only government building in history that came in under budget. he was thoroughly familiar with the plants, and i think he died quite happy with the building that he knew was going to be built. he and the architect, cass gilbert, they corresponded regularly. and when taft was president, he had appointed gilbert to a fine arts commission at the capitol. so gilbert knew what it was about, and he knew what visions jefferson had had. some of the justices did not like it hurt much. some

it does when you walk by courthouses and government buildings all over, go to jefferson memorial in so many places, in the city particularly, you have religious expression. and when the government does that, the government has the right to speak. whether or not that then crosses the line and becomes an establishment, you're right, that would be where my mother says that will be where heaven breaks loose and will have all sorts of different issues about that. it is a pretty big plate to take on and say government can never be in a position of having a monument, a prominent as to which includes a religious message. that's the point where trying to make. >> the reason why the court didn't make the decision, they had a legitimate establishment clause claim, the 10th circuit had virtually invited it to be litigated in an earlier round of litigation. and for reasons that escape everybody, they chose not to raise it. i wrote the only annika's brief in that case, summum i thought that the boundary between public speech and not public speech in this context was much murkier than the court had it, and it's not clear tha

jefferson quote the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. that has become a motto for violence against the government. timothy mcvey the oklahoma city bomber had that very quote on his shirt the day of the bombing of the building when 168 people were killed. bill: all right. so he is tying in a common straighter at the obama descrart with common straighter with timothy mcveigh, is that valid? >> no. i understand shout down jerks. i am against people who bring guns to town hall meetings. i'm against comparing barack obama to adolf hitler or his health care policies to fascism as several people on this network routinely do. and i am against a general philosophy which made sense when thomas jefferson said it that says that we have to have blood in the streets, basically, you know, and kill off the tyrants. having said that, the man at the town hall meeting or outside the town hall meeting in new hampshire, he is not in the same moral universe as timothy mcveigh. there is not an ounce of moral equivalence between an angry, but peaceful protester, even one with a gun on his leg, and a psychopathic killer. bill: now, william f. buckley is

you walk by courthouses and government buildings all over, go to jefferson's memorial in so many places it is time out of mind in this city particularly you have religious expressions and when the government does that, the government has the right to speak. whether or not it then crosses the line and becomes an establishment for a ride that will be where my mother would say that it will break loose and we will have all sorts of different issues about that. but it is a pretty big plate to try to take on and say government can never be in the position of having a monument on permanent display which includes a religious message and that is the point i'm trying to make. >> the reason the court didn't reach the issue was a litigation decision by. the legitimate establish calls claim, the tenth circuit virtually invited to be litigated in early arana the litigation and for reasons it escapes everybody they chose not to raise it. i wrote the only weakest brief in that case supporting so mum. i felt the boundary between public speech and nonpublic speech in this context was much murkier than the court had and it's not clear that

you know, races for mayor and city council, so i think we may see slowly perhaps a rise of the independents politically. >> thank you. >> hi, i'm from washington jefferson college. you actually already answered two of my questions, but i guess i was wondering, since barack obama already, you know, tried to enhance the role of the congress, by letting them do what they're supposed to do, do you think that he will continue this encouragement and have them keep doing what they're supposed to do or do you think that the criticism of what he tried to do will maybe stop him in the future from allowing that role of congress to stay? >> well, you know, it's not up to him, because he doesn't allow congress to do anything. you know. it's up to the congress to decide, mr. president, and tee done this -- ronald reagan, who i was very close to, and you know, i admired him a lot, he sent a budget one year to the congress, to the house, wasn't even opened. it wasn't looked at. ended up in the trash. thank you, mr. president. we appreciate all the effort. i'm sure it was a good exercise and you learned a lot from it and now we'll decide, and it really is -- the problem