and most of them were people who were enamored of gandhian who like india and this includes jefferson davis and some other people. and this is something that the british suggested about the pakistani leaders. and they are, as you know, they are very hospitable people. and they we're were not going to have a vibrant economy. and then they decided this would be part of it and they were going to help to keep the military. and he had assistance from the united states. and in so doing, pakistan would not actually get involved in the american military plans or anything and he came to pakistan and said that our army will become your army and he says to him, we can't fight communism without the good guys on our side, and that is why have signed on pakistan. the good guys are not pakistanis and then dulles as if they are not than they are the least muslims. and of course, they were hindus. and so was atypical in nine american politician who didn't know the difference about what he wanted including allies against the soviet union and he was lining up allies in pakistan was willing to be an ally in in

lee comes to mind, some from south like jefferson davis. >> so is the question why didn't i write about them over -- >> i mean, war is still two-sided spent let me elaborate on this basis of the southern interpretation of the war. one of the things that happened and people like john hay were complicit in this, and many members of the republican party, in fact those who call themselves liberal republicans who joined in with the democrats to run against grant in 1872. there was this great desire and one can understand it, to forget those late unpleasantries as southerners like to call the civil war. they wanted to get over the sexual crisis and get on with building the nation. part of this was, you could call it, part this was the business takeover of american politics. because one of the things that occurred to the corporate class, the capitalist classes in america was once the civil war ended, the south became the new frontier. the south had been largely un-capitalist, even at the capitalist before the civil war with an economy based on a feudal system of slavery. slavery is gone and/or

or it could be jefferson davis and the confederacy. and this notion that if you don't like the way the -- if you don't like the outcome of the election, go start your own country. take up arms against the government and somehow that's a legitimate and constitutional action. it isn't. it's unconstitutional. and if you do it, the government will come and take the gun from your cold, dead hands. >> what a conflicted country this is. >> yeah, yeah. but think of the resentment and the fear that would lead to that kind of posturing on a public stage. that's the, to me, that's the menace of our time is that undercurrent of resentment and fear and hatred that finds an outlet in the legitimated forms of violence. >> including the killing of 26 people, 20 of them children, in newtown, connecticut. >> yep. >> richard slotkin, thank you very much for being with me. >> you're very welcome. >> back when charlton heston made that defiant boast at the nra convention -- that gun control advocates would have to pry his rifle from his cold dead hands --

acclaimed lincoln's assassination, trial and ebbing cushion, and bloody crimes that chased if jefferson davis. james swanson's current book in the topic for the evening is tighted "end of days: assassination of john f kennedy ." which was released today. we are fortune to have both james and sam on ford theater's advisory council. and my pleasure to introduce two such distinguished talents. please join me in welcoming them. [applause] [applause] james, it's good to see you. >> good to see you, sam. >> for several generation of americans, people here, i'm certain, including me, that assassination of president kennedy was the shoughs shocking, horrifying, grief striken day in the public event in my life. and you have now written the book about that day and the days surrounding it. james, there are i don't know how many books about the assassination of the president. why did you decide to write this book? >> well, sam, it's the book i always wanted to read that no one else had written. that's why i written the manhunt book of the lincoln assassination. i wanted to write a thrilling, accurate, da