the letter became public and jefferson davis and others read it, and davis wrote a letter to the pope and september 1860 three, trying to enlist the pope's sympathy and support for the confederacy. the pope wrote back to jefferson 1863.in december the museum owns that letter here and we have it on display. although some on the confederate side interpreted it as more or less recognition of the confederacy by the pope, it was really not that there it was a nice diplomatic note, a friendly one, but that is all it was. neither the pope or any other theign leader recognized confederacy. jefferson davis had another angle in writing to the pope. he would've taken recognition is he also knew, and remember this is 1863, well more than two years after fighting. a lot of men serving in the union armies were not americans, they were europeans. i read one conservative estimate of 400 thousand europeans serving in the union army throughout the four years of the war. what davis and many others knew was that most europeans were catholic. they were coming from the poorer sections of europe that were h

this is jefferson davis. this is the only wartime portrait of jefferson davis. it was done in this house from life in august of 1863 when he was 55 years old. we believe that this portrait hung in the house somewhere. we are not sure where, after it was finished. we do know that davis took it with him when he left richmond in april of 1865 and gave it to someone in south carolina when he was passing through that state and the museum got it back later and we have displayed it ever since. jefferson davis was born in kentucky, the same state that abraham lincoln was born in actually. both men were born in kentucky. neither of them stayed there that long. davis' family moved south soon after davis' birth. they moved to louisiana and then over to mississippi. davis grew up mostly in mississippi. although, he returned to kentucky a couple times both for educational reasons. he went to boarding school in kentucky and then later to transylvania university in kentucky before going off to the u.s. u.s. military military academy at west point. lincoln, by contrast, spent w

all of the ones related to jefferson davis. and then it has the box of those 37 -- you know what's funny? i think there were only 34 in the box. three were missing. but with that list, i was able to cross index by using newspaper accounts and stuff to get the other three. >> how fully were the 37 executed and pursued? for instance, of john breckenridge, who fled the country, and some of the cabinet members were gone for a period of years. were they aware of the indictment, and did it keep them out of the country? until it was -- >> oh yeah, they knew about the indictments for sure. such a great point. many of the ones under indictment did flee. one of them, who i write a lot in the book about, is a guy by the name of jubal early, who fled to mexico and then made it up to canada. cantankerous, unreconstructed confederate. and he was more worried than the others because he had been responsible for burning the town of chambersburg, pennsylvania. he thought maybe they will come after me. pugna such a cious character. when he return

effort to make sure there were african-americans on that jury that would hear the case against jefferson davis, presumably, they had decided to try davis first and presumably lee would have been second. they would have tried him next. one thing i will say about this, too, that i think is sort of interesting is the case against davis, and then, of course, against all of the confederates, broke down because the attorney general, i think, felt he was doing the right thing and believed that treason should be tried by a jury in a traditional court and not only that, but rightn needed to breach in the location where it was committed. in this case, virginia. a we stop and think for second, how easy or difficult to you think it would have been to try jefferson davis and robert e. lee in a richmond courtroom made up of ordinary virginians fter the civil war? i think the union propagators look at the odds of being successful in trying such a case and realized, "all we need is one to think that treason has not been committed, and we would lose." for his part, underwood felt probably that having an africa

this was the petit jury that was ready to hear the trial against jefferson davis. i thought that was always underwoodg because was not only an abolitionist , but he was a great champion of african-americans, and he made a n effort to make sure there were african-americans on that jury that would hear the case against jefferson davis, and presumably, they had decided to try davis first and presumably lee would have been second. they would have tried him next. one thing i will say about this, too, that i think is sort of interesting is the case against davis, and then, of course, against all of the confederates, broke down because the attorney general, i think, felt he was doing the right thing and believed that treason should be tried by a jury in a traditional court and not only that, but treason needed to be tried in the location where it was committed. in this case, virginia. if we stop and think for a second, how easy or difficult to you think it would have been to try jefferson davis and robert e. lee in a richmond courtroom made up of ordinary virginians after

jefferson davis proposed one. william stewart proposed one. and stephenon douglas both proposed at least one. three governors chimed in. they came from state legislatures, governors, congress, secession conventions, and the washington peace convention. my book is built around these amendments because, as i learned, no one else had gathered them or analyzed them. what do what do they mean? , i mentioned that james buchanan had three subsets. crittenden had six. most had fewer than one, one paragraph long. was onen davis' paragraph long. when you add up those subsets, those articles, there are 350 different topics that are embodied in those 67 amendments. so one of the first things i had to do was to sort of categorize them. i created a chart listing the topics along the top and the proposers down the left side. and if you have read extensively in the decade of the 1850's, in the run-up to the war from the compromise of 1850 to the civil war, these amendments tracked the difficulties that this country was trying to deal with. the largest number

jefferson davis is one paragraph. there are 350 different topics in those subset that's are embodied in those 67 amendments. so one of the first thing i had to do is categorize them. and if you have read extensively in the decade of the 1850s, in the runup to the war from the compromise of 1850 to the civil war, these amendments track the difficulties that the country was trying to deal with. the largest number of articles within these amendments dealt with slavery and the territories. not surprising because that was the election around which the election of 1860 turned. there are slaves there and have them there as long as they want. should the federal government prohibit the territories which was the republicans' position. remember the republican party didn't come into being until 1856. in opposition to its core purpose is opposition to the extension of slavery and to the territories. this issue cracked the democratic party in 1860. southern wing and northern wing. they couldn't decide on what the policy should be.

jefferson davis' mentioned in the index. and this is sangers hill where the fortifications were located to defend a railroad that was coming from atlanta, into atlanta. and this was collected on the jefferson davis' birthday, so it must be yours now. for -- we drive up up in thati grew neighborhood, i never knew that there were confederate fortifications until i was told by some new read your book. >> thank you. if you want to visit leroy ho inn.t's the 1842 you can see it right there on college street and they welcome visitors. he does talk about the slaves thoseto work on fortifications. a also have to send slaves to to help bill the fortifications there as well and leroy is very upset because they come back and most of them are sick. so he does write about that. >> the curiosity that you might know or appreciate, i'm told that the little family is mentioned often. >> yes. neal was significant in that before and after the war and his house still stands, it is somewhat cut a corner and behind -- cap corner -- cata corner. t

and jefferson davis is heavily mentioned in the index. well, this is sangers hill, where the fortifications were located to defend a railroad that was coming from atlanta, into atlanta. into macon. it went around sangers hill. and this was collected on the jefferson davis' birthday, so it must be yours now. [applause] >> oh. >> thank you for enlightening north macon about sangers help. we drive up every day, i grew up in that neighborhood, i never knew that there were confederate fortifications on sangers hill until i was told by some new -- -- somebody who read your book. >> thank you. >> if you want to visit leroy's home, it's the 1842 inn. you can go online. 1842inn.com. you can see it right there on college street and they welcome visitors. if you want to see it, they would love to -- >> he does talk about the slaves being conscripted to work on those fortifications. they also have to send slaves to atlanta -- not atlanta, sorry -- savannah to help bill the -- build the fortifications there as well and leroy is very upset because they

jefferson davis did not act until congress acted. lincoln suspended himself and had to wait for congress to pass legislation after the fact authorizing that. like that day have different interpretations and where did why did theym -- have different interpretations and where did that come from? >> jefferson davis ran on a platform of criticizing abraham aiken as traveling on civil liberties and in particular pointed to the fact we can had suspended habeas. five days after jefferson davis gave his most prominent speech making this very argument, congress at his behest suspended habeas in the confederacy. they were both wartime presidents and it was a extraordinary war. it is not surprising that is where we see suspension. what is interesting is lincoln does get ahead of this congress and you wind up with a little bit of a chicken and a problem because he has done it first in geographic pockets but eventually on a nationwide basis. drags its feet and indulges in the luxury of debating whether suspension is warranted for almost two years

and jefferson davis who leroy loves. speaking style and writing was wonderful. end not so much. in ted to sound defensive that speech. he never cared for joe brown. nks his third and fourth terms are an embarrassment is the word he uses and he shouldn't have done that. doesn't like joe brown. personal friend of the grandmother will bring a meal. occasionally you have someone who is as high ranking as alexander stevens taking around mail for his grandmother. that is where this family stood. startsvery young when he assume. so you can his father's opinion is what he was writing about. starts talking about that abolishist abolishi abolishist. it's the first time the union army went through fairfax court soldiers all of the were drunkards and they were filling their army with just a bars.of people from the you have warren news. he's so interested in the news. his favorite general was joe johnston. and he met him at one point. after, he lize until tipped his hat and goes that is jo jo? he spent four years recording war, the e of the patels and strategies. you get a chronological list

another interesting thing so did jefferson davis. he did not act until the congress acted whereas lincoln obviously suspended himself and later had to wait until congress basically passed legislation after the fact authorizing that. why did they have different intentionations of that -- interpretations of that? >> that's a really interesting comparison. jefferson davis ran on a platform of criticizing abraham lincoln and trampling on civil liberty. it's the fact that lincoln had suspended habeas on his own nationwide. five days after jefferson davis gave his most prominent speech making this very argument, his congress, i believe suspended habeas in the confederacy. they were wartime presidents. it was an extraordinary war. it's not surprising that that's where we see suspension. what is interesting is that lincoln does get out of ahead of his congress. you wind up with a little bit of chicken and egg problem. he's gone happied ahead and done it. the congress dragged its feet and indulges in the luxury of debating whether suspension

in august of 2015 students at the university of texas decided to remove statues of jefferson davis from the quad and in 2017 both robert e. lee and hours in the justin welby removed. committeess convened to discuss monument removal. 4 monuments were removed from new orleans. then there was charlottesville. august 11 and 12 last year. white supremacists gathered there under the pretext of monuments from being removed. this was voted on by the city council in february. the unthinkable happened, the murder that followed in the then monuments in baltimore, durham, and elsewhere were toppled by kreuz or relocated by governments. debates have served as a reminder to the nation of the deep intense and sometimes violent nature of the civil war or perhaps more precisely confederate memory that continues to permeate our country. is place thesedo debates within a context by examining the way in which they survived the war and thought to remember it. how did they explain it to their children? consciously and unconsciously exaggerate minimize contradict and/or intimate issues from the telling? , the

jefferson davis is in grave. stonewall jackson in yellow. jeff stewart is the blue one. forrestnathan bedford him,e top left and below pierre. you know who i am talking about. they are the most prominent on the landscape. in richmond, we have a number of confederate statues throughout the city. the one that is more prominent are the five on monument avenue, the grand boulevard developed as a real estate boon. a thing folks don't know and we had the opportunity to share, it was never, monument avenue was never intended to be confederate row. it happened happenstance. leeappened shortly after died. it was clear everyone wanted to do some kind of memorial to lee, and it became a conversation about it can be nowhere else but richmond. it took 20 years. when it was finally determined to place it on the western side theren that had nothing but an open field, and the desire to bring this old heart, the house building began in earnest. today it has some of richmond's , in expensive real estate the state, frankly. the area is a national historic district. each of these monuments,

adding a monument t the enslaved and totally removing the statue of jefferson davis. the finding impossible actions will be presented to the public later this summer. >>> technology can be you best friend or your worst enemy. a suspected fairfax county drug dealer accidentally texted an officer by mistake. it said hmu. they greed the man with a search parent. they discovered a mound of marijuana, weapons and wash. >>> a man thought he was helping plan a fourth of july tror attack. w, he is sitting in jail. how the fbi tracked wn. >>> thede presint has put his name on buildings and golf courses all overd.he wo now, it looks like drug dealers are trying to cash in on the brand recognition. >>> take a looat how hot it ready feels. 89 degrees. we have a heat advisory again today. we'll tal about >>> you're watching "news 4 today." >> welcome back t4:14. president trump is taking closer look at his possible supreme court nominees. he coetnfirmed he m with four potential justices yesterday but would n say who they were. he is not asking candidates how they fbout any cases,

jefferson davis was jailed for some time. but none of them really suffered. jefferson davis wrote a memoir saying it was all about states rights and not about slavery. they are there to propagate their own views and really not punished that harshly. did you have a question? jeremy. student: the 13th amendment originally stated there shall be no -- except as a punishment for crime. how significant did that play for the south, as far as enforcing the black codes? prof. sinha: very good question. we will be talking about black codes. southerners used all kinds of legal and constitutional loopholes, aside from violence, to undermine reconstruction and black rights. people use criminality, they start convicting black people for minor crimes, and using them as convict labor. there are theories about incarceration, and this is where it starts. the people who wrote the 13th amendment did not have that in mind. meaning if you're duly convicted of a crime, you can be imprisoned, your rights can be taken away from you temporarily. that is a common exception. the black c

among the options, t removing statue of jefferson davis.he findings and possible actions willappen later this summer. text casionally we send a to the wrong person. someone learned that the hard way wheneccidentally sent to it a police officer. it read, u orit me up. that's what the officers decided to do. they set upe t to meet him. they greeted him with a search warrant. they discovered a pound of pot, a handgun andots of cash. he is now crged with possession with intent to distribute. be ceful with those cell ph es! >> dare i say tt sounds like a terrible case of karma. >> we need something to laugh about. it is just unbearable. >> it feels like 97 degrees and more dangerous in the forecast tomorrow. hopefully a/c is working full force in your if you have the fan on, it can cool the temperature by 5 s. degr so something new i learned today. take a look at the weather headlines. a heat wavedes ned as hitting 90 degrees or higher. even higher than 90. the last four days and we have three more days to go. start and sunday will be more comfo

the united states troops under jefferson davis were present on that quiet, misty day in the russian imperials lowered for the last time. the ceremony took place at the chief city of the russian colony, a place called new archangel and also sick, come itka, after its indian name. russian america was transferred to the u.s. ownership. it was the greatest event of its kind in peacetime history. with the purchase of the alaska territory, the united states gained control of about 375 million acres at in average cost of less than two cents an acre. everyone present now stood on american soil. provide forss could laws and government, the u.s. army was to be caretaker of the new territory. establishing four garrisons in strategic locations. soldiers acting under official orders were important explorers of alaska. expedition penetrated kendra alaska. the reconnaissance of the yukon river are established as one of the main routes to the yukon gold field. law and order in the gold rush were maintained by the army. field kitchens fed the hungry. trails connecting military posts pioneered modern alaska.

they actually left texas and virginia before jefferson davis had decided that e would allow texans to be recruited for the fighting, because at the time, they thought, we might need them on the western frontier. so they didn't even have approval. they didn't even know if they confederateepted in service and these guys had already left. you can think of the texans as absolutely d, aggressive, know aggressive of regiments. his can be a good thing and a bad thing. you know, it's no surprise that he first texans also took the highest casualties at the battle. fourth and fifth texas are butlutely just as dedicated they waited and drilled all summer in texas, until they got davis would ferson accept more texans since the force their ould way in, and the fourth and fifth texans then headed to richmond in the fall. summer and early fall of 1862. all right. everybody following me along? write down your questions at the end because i don't think i'm allowed to take them until the end. all right. now, what do these guys come from? i think one of the big about the ndings texas brigade is that the

jefferson davis ran on a platform of criticizing abraham lincoln and trampling on civil liberty. it's the fact that lincoln had suspended habeas on his own nationwide. five days after jefferson gave his most prominent speech making this argument, his congress, i believe, suspended habeas in the confederacy. they were wartime presidents. it was an extraordinary war. it is not surprising that that is where we see suspension. what is interesting is that lincoln does get out ahead of his congress. you wind up with a bit of a chicken and egg problem. he's gone ahead and done it. pockets, butl eventually on a nationwide basis. the congress dragged its feet and indulges in the luxury of debating whether suspension is warranted for almost two years. i think there is plenty of blame to go around. we are forgetting the model. i definitely say that i think lincoln was wrong to suspend on his own. i don't think the constitution envisions the president having the power to do this on his own. to square withrd the english backdrop. this frame brick -- this framework comes out of parliament taki

jefferson davis was jailed for some time. but jefferson davis wrote a memoir after he was released. they are all there to propagate their own views. and they are really not punished that harshly. do you have a question? the 13th amendment originally stated there should be no slavery except as a punishment for crime. so how significant do you think that played for the south part as far as and forcing the black codes? professor sinha: very good question. they use all kinds of legal and constitutional loopholes. besides violins, they used this to undermine reconstruction. people use criminality, where they start convicting black people for minor crimes. mass are theories about incarceration and this is where it all starts. actually the reformers, the people who wrote the 13th amendment did not have that in mind at all. this is a common english exception, to end rights and privileges, meaning if you are convicted, your rights can be taken away from you temporarily. out from theoming 13th amendment. we are talking about this under johnson's plan. the state governments are alsoated by uni

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statutes are several, adding a monumentto those who were enslaved or totally removing the statue of jefferson davisxt to the statue. some say it goes too far or doesn't go far enough. a possible presentation on the findings and possible action will possibly happen this summer. ext week we will learn president trump's pick to succeed retiring supreme court stice anthony kennedy, and the president is said to be considering several women. let's take a quick look at the half dozen who are viewed as top candidates. feder appellate judge amy barrett excites anti-ortion advocates. she's catholic and that background raises questions about how she would uphold the "roe v. wade" precedent. georgia sreme court justice brit grant is the youngest of the women on trump's list. at age 40 she' never been confirmed to a federal bench by the senate. eight democrats voted last year to approve justice joan larson to the sixth circuit court appeals. she used to be a clerk for late justice antonio scalia and alison ides was recently confirmed and was raised by a hangle mother and has a very compelling storycould earn he

i headedome south on jefferson davis highway. >> reporter: 27-year-old george wingate says he was on hisho wa to his family when his check engine loyalty came on and he pulled over on the side of the home. >> she's home waiting on me and i've got kids, you know, that i need to watch in the morning. >> reporter: but he didn't make it home that nig i april 2017. the stafford county sheriff dashcam video shows the moment that deputy fulfordul up and asked for the man's i.d. >> have i committed a crime? >> wavt's that? >> i committed a crime? >> i didn't say you did. >> all right then. >> you'red still requio identify yourself. >> am i free to go? >> not right n, no. >>m i being detained? >> you're not detained. >> so i'm free to go? >> no. >> reporter: not long ago deputy fulford arrests win gait for failing to identify himself, obstruction of justice and resisting arrest. all of those charges l wereater dropped. >> if i'm not being detained then i'm free to go. >> he's 100% epright. >>ter: this virginia-based to fence attorney says he sees why the judge threw out the case. >> he walks

brian: why did he pardon jefferson davis? david: that is a different question. it comes later. i don't remember the timing exactly. at least two years after the war, maybe three. davis has been in prison. he is not a threat. i think the fury of the war and the resentment is beginning to ebb of it. -- a bit. the case for prosecuting him --olves presidents precedents that i don't think he could take. brian: this book was first published in 2009. is it available? is it in print? david: it is available wherever fine books are sold, and it is available in e-book and audio version as well. brian: it's called "impeached: the trial of president andrew johnson and the fight for lincoln's legacy." our guest has been david o. stewart. he is also the author of "the summer of 1787." we thank you very much. david: thanks for having me. >> for free transcripts or to give us your comments on this program, visit us at q&a.org. next week on q&a, a discussion on american history and the u.s. congress with congressional historians richard and rayonald ritchie, smock. that is next sunday at 8:00 p.

some of the changes include, adding a monument to the eng aved and totally removin the statue of jefferson davis. the finding impossible actions will be presented to the public later th summer. >>> technology can be your best friend or your worst enemy.a spected fairfax county drug dealer learned that when he exaccidentallyd an officer by mistake. it said hmu, hit me up. they greeted the man with a search warrant. they discovered a mound of marijuana, weapons and wash. he is charged with possession with intent to distribute. >>> a man thought he was helpinf plan a fourth uly terror attack. now, he is sitting in jail. how the fbi tracked him down. >>> the president has put his name on buildings and golf courses all over the world. now, it looks like drug dealers are trying to cash in on the brand recognition. more on that straight ahead. >>> good tuesday morning. if you're heang to the beach on thisueerribleay traffic-wise, you'll be happy when you get there. we have more rain relief before the weekend. i'll show you that and your forecast cominup. >>> i want you to bring the kids to the newseum.

jefferson davis is in grave. stonewall jackson in yellow. jeff stewart is the blue one. forrestnathan bedford him,e top left and below pierre. you know who i am talking about. they are the most prominent on the landscape. in richmond, we have a number of confederate statues throughout the city. the one that is more prominent are the five on monument avenue, the grand boulevard developed as a real estate boon. a thing folks don't know and we had the opportunity to share, it was never, monument avenue was never intended to be confederate row. it happened happenstance. leeappened shortly after died. it was clear everyone wanted to do some kind of memorial to lee, and it became a conversation about it can be nowhere else but richmond. it took 20 years. when it was finally determined to place it on the western side theren that had nothing but an open field, and the desire to bring this old heart, the house building began in earnest. today it has some of richmond's , in expensive real estate the state, frankly. the area is a national historic district. each of these monuments,

just to let you know.ou if ylanned on take jefferson davis hohway t the airport, it's very backed upo get to this point to bring you this live report that you're seeg right now. >> hey, hows itoing. thanks for watching. all right. th pks. there aple who right now who planned on taking their flights outaif the ort, and one guy told me his flight is delayed. he plans on cancelling. the gentleman who owns this car no showing his face on camera because he's a l tle embarrassed after what happened and this car has to be towed out ot here. it's a loss. back to you in the studio. >> what a mess down there. shomari, t wnk you. >> want to take a closer look now at president trump's evolvingomments surrounding russia. during yesterday's news conference in helsinki, thet presideemed to lend credibility to vladimir putin's denial of meddling in our 2016 election. the that's despite the assessment our nation's top intelligence agents. >> what mr. trump did is betray the mennd women of the fbi and nsa andan cia and other betray the american public. >> joining us now is author of "messing with the

. >> i was ubering and headed home on jefferson davis highway. >> reporter: his check enginee light cn and pulled over to the side of the road. moments later the stafford county dashcam vid captured when this officer came by and asked for i.d. >> did i commit a crime? >> you didn't. required toill identify yourself? >> am i free to go? >> not right now, no. >> am i beingde ined? >> you're not being detained. >> so you're free to go? >> lno. er the deputy arrested him for obstruction of justice and resisting arrest and all of those charges were lat dropped. >> if i'm not being detained i'm free to go. >> a virginia-based criminal attorney say he sees why the judge threw out the case. >> he walked up to the gentleman and keeps insisting on him identifying himself. it's called aua conse contact and a consensual contact is basically two people, doesn't matter if you're uniformed or not, that come together that. gentleman technically could walk away and he attempts to or asks to andcehe police of says, no, you can't. >> reporter: nevertheless wingate filed a civil lawsuit against deputy lfo

brian: why did he pardon jefferson davis? david: that's a different question. it comes later. don't remember the timing exactly. at least two years after the war, maybe three? davis had been in prison. he's not a threat. i think the fury about the war, the resentment, is beginning to ebb a bit, and the case for prosecuting him involves precedents i don't think we really wanted to make. because you couldn't prosecute him and not prosecute robert e. lee, or all these other people. brian: this book was first published in 2009. is it available? is it in print? david: it is in print. it is available wherever fine books are sold. and it's available in ebook and audio version as well. brian: and it is called "impeached: the trial of president andrew johnson and the fight for lincoln's legacy." our guest has been david o. stewart, also the author of "the summer of 1787." we thank you very much. david: thanks for having me. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content an

united states troops under the command of general jefferson c davis were present on that quiet, misty when the russian imperial flag was lowered for the last time. the ceremony took place at the chief city of the russian colony, a place called new archangel by them, and also sitka, after its indian name. the:30 that afternoon, territory sometimes known as russia and america was officially transferred to united states ownership. [flute laying] [drummers] it was the biggest event of its kind in peacetime history. with the purchase of the alaska territory, the united states gained control of about 375 million acres, at an average cost of less than two cents an acre. everyone present now stood on american soil. [cannon] establishress could laws, the united states army would be the caretaker. soldiers acting under official orders were important explorers. 1880 one, the raise expedition penetrated frozen tundra. an 1883 reconnaissance of the yukon river established one of the main routes to the klondike gold fields. lieutenant carried out a resurrection -- carried out a mission from resurre

and his horse, traveler; "stonewall" jackson; and jeb stuart; the president of the confederacy, jefferson davis matew fontaine maury, a somewhat more obscure figure who tried and failed to start a confederate colony in mexico. >> hayter: those monuments, in many ways, are part and parcel of what we call the lost cause. >> cooper: the lost cause, what does that mean? >> hayter: the lost cause, quite frankly, is just the confederate reinterpretation of the civil war. it's created almost immediately after the war ends, by confederate leadership. it was hard for a lot of people, in my estimation, to believe that their ancestors died and-- and fought for an ignoble cause. 600,000-and-some-odd people died in the civil war, which is more americans than died in the second world war. and people had to make sense of that. >> cooper: believers in the lost cause who raised money to build monuments in towns and cities across the country were often veterans, or their widows and children. lost cause ideology portrayed confederate soldiers as heroes defending states' rights against northern aggression, and dow

now they are arguing who is going to replace jefferson davis. he was a great man. among those five memorials [inaudible] what i would hope the committee would think about is not a figure but a montage of figures. a man, woman, an adult, a child, a black, a white, and his stamp -- a hispanic, a native american. a montage that represent the great mass of american people. not just white folks or black folks but all folks. let them be the centerpiece that from that heading from the confederate states or what every you want to call it came the great united states and this of human mixture beings that makes us the most powerful nation on earth. that is what i hope for it. christie congratulate for what they have nominated naming it. [inaudible] maybe he can relate it i have a hearing problem. [inaudible] no. i will tell you why. i plagiarized. [laughter] that in the negative sense. i used comments from a dozen different people and a dozen useces and i did not quotation marks because i was emphasizing things to which i agree very strongly. ,f i let the thing be public som

to do with some of the most prominent confederate monuments is recommending the removal of one jefferson davis. the panel spent a year soliciting public input on the statues on the city's historic monument avenue. i will send it back downtown to you guys >> all right, sue herrera, we'll see you next hour. >>> coming up heinz catch-up ke found itself in a middle of a trade battle >>> elon musk telling tesla employees, quote, i think we just became a real car company we'll talk tesla after the break. >>> tesla releasing production figures for the second quarter they had some good news, but they had some disappointing news to some as well. let's get right now over to phil lebeau >> we'll talk about deliveries and then we'll talk about production and this will give you an indication why the stock is moving lower. came in just over 43,000 vehicles it model 3 component of that was 18,440 the consensus most on wall street were expecting them to deliver a little closer to 26,000, 26,500 this comes with the news over the weekend that they didn't hit their target delivering 5,000 model 3s during the wee