he had lieutenant jefferson davis, not jefferson davis he -- davis who was president of the confederatetates, but jefferson c. davis, who would fight in the western theater of the war. and captain truman seymour, who would go on to lead troops at the battle of lusty later in the war. it is interesting how many of his officers have important roles later in the war. this is probably one of the officers under his command there at fort moultrie. -- moultrie who would have a big role later in the war too. captain abner doubleday. captain abner doubleday would have a big role in gettysburg. he is more famous today because people think he started the game of baseball. which of course is not true, but that is how he was remembered. he is interesting because most of the officers that were under robert anderson were not abolitionists and were not really republicans. but abner doubleday was, and he was very outspoken about it. a lot of the people in charleston did not like that, so he was singled out in the newspapers for their vitriol. but he is going to be outspoken in his defense of the union a

he's benedict arnold or jefferson davis. joe mccarthy. lyndon larouche. because of his lack of civility

he most represents in some ways is the cessationous president of the confederacy of america, jefferson davis taken his movement and himself out of the legitimate governance of the united states of america. he's no longer part of the united states of america. he has really seceded himself and his movement from who we are as a country. that's what the meaning of that attack is. >> why are you willing to make the comparisons between the president and jefferson davis when there are many republicans who are unwilling to see and make the same associations that you have just made for the president who has assaulted democracy, undermined democracy, and encouraged this riot which is now the premise of this article, singular article of impeachment? >> look, we can argue over what historical figure is the most evil in terms of the damage done to the united states by undermining its interests, which president, and whether it is jefferson davis, the president of the confederate states, or someone else, trump is in a league by himself here in terms of his sedition, in terms of his undermining interest to

newspapers called for the government to stand up to jefferson davis. they believed the government should let the south know that they were not going to tolerate this. with were going to deal loss of civilized warfare. -- la of civilized warfarews. and when the northern government dragged their feet, they criticized lincoln by name. they compared him, frederick douglass, to jefferson davis. he said mr. lincoln shall interpose his power to prevent these atrocious assassinations of nigro soldiers. the civilized world will hold him equally, with jefferson davis, responsible for them. in addition to cruel treatment from the confederate, which i guess they would expect, black soldiers also had to worry about treatment from the fellow union soldiers. and also civilians in the town. a lot of people harbored prejudiced views against african-american soldiers. the stories were printed, that show the hardships and conditions that african-american soldiers on the others of that, there are stories of white officers supporting their black soldiers and newspapers wer

jefferson davis concluded that american freedom should not be represented by the badge for free slavessent back to the sculptor with a request to modify that particular part of the statue, which he did. and he substituted for the liberty cap a helmet composed of an eagle's head and feathers. certainly, december 2, 1863 would be one of the two or three greatest days in the history of the building, the day that the head and shoulders of crawford's statue of freedom were mounted into place on top of the dome of the united states capitol. >> the most interesting part of my research thus far has been the statue of freedom, which was cast in bronze by an enslaved laborer named philip green. i think this is interesting, because it is so ironic that the statue of freedom was cast by an enslaved person. who was freed by the time she was raised atop the capital, because emancipation came to washington on april 16, 1862. so philip reed had been free for over a year when she was raised atop the capital. ♪ >> any trip to the top of the dome is a treat. -- a treat to any visitor today and it was whe

jefferson davis incited an insurrection against the united states and it caused a civil war. after the civil war was over, did we treat jefferson davis as some honored citizen of the united states? no. he was in disgrace and he was punished. that is going to happen to donald trump if there is any justice assuming that we find the evidence that we're talking about. this is a president who did something that no president has done before. and just about the worst thing a president can possible do, which is he tried to take away our democracy and we're finding out more and more evidence of not only how he tried to abuse presidential power to do that, but i would speculate that he had a lot closer relationships with some of the people who planned this insurrection and this attack on the capitol. had it succeeded, you could have had satisfies nations of the vice president speak, you could have had hostage taking. we would be in a terrible crisis. we might today be living in a dictatorship. >> and there are various people with whom the president tried to conspire, some who were on h

jefferson davis has to apologize for not promoting forrest sooner. so he's sort of like the south will rise again think about forrest as a guy that can do it. lee got his shot and failed trends forrest had gotten his shot. he has to sort of sharper and a little bit more violence, more masculine, less refined family. so he's this everyman also a superman and how he gets remembered by the 1990s, every one shirt of lee, there are five shirts sold forrest so he's a rising star of this folks who want to fight the civil war again so it's an interesting figure to look at . there are more markers of him in tennessee at any, then the states three presidents combined. there is a county in mississippi, a city in arkansas. there's a park in tennessee and there are allthese goddamn monuments . so a lot of that left itself to look like this where you can look at his life and tell the story of slavery but also the massive wealth that was stolen in that system. you could tell a story of the trail of tears, tell a story of the clan and reconstruction and you can tell

newspapers called for them to stand up to jefferson davis.ey believed that the government should let the south know they would not tolerate this. they they were going to deal with laws of civilized warfare. they criticized lincoln by name. they said basically they compared him and his newspaper to jefferson davis. and he said that mr. lincoln shall interpose his power. a civilized world will hold him equally with jefferson davis responsible for them. next, in addition to trul treatment from the confederates, black soldiers also had to worry about treatment from their fellow soldiers. the stories were printed, too, to show the hardship of the conditions that african-american soldiers have to endure as they fought from the union. there was sorries of officers. newspapers were showing this. and he basically said that these are well drilled, disciplined, and colored soldiers. they're not here to wage war fair against you, and they're here to protect you. they're faithfully obeying orders and they're do everything they're supposed to do and he end

federal government in the same way that i would look at jefferson davis or look at benedict arnold during the american revolution. he is an odd coincidence, trump, really a third-party movement piecing together different realities in america. he adopted george wallace's segregationism and strom thurmond's dixie crat party. he brought in this weird lyndon he rouche theory. we're a country that has million of americans who believe neil arm strong never went to the moon. he mixed all these up together with being a tv celebrity. he seems to me to be a weird, strangening one-off president. and hence he's going to now be facing lawsuits pouring on him for what he did to the georgia secretary of state. trying to sate, find me the boats. new york's southern district is going to be coming after him. he has scores of sexual hassment suits. i don't see how trump has a resurgence in american history. i think his numbers are even going to go lower as ex president. there's a chance -- george w. bush and jimmy carter were able to do them. carter through winning the nobel. [ inaudible ] -- empathy and op

newspapers called for the government to stand up to jefferson davis. government, that they were not going to tolerate this. they were going to deal with laws of civilized warfare. and when the government, the northern government drag their feet, they criticize lincoln by name. they said that basically they compared him frederick douglass to jefferson davis and they said that mr. lincoln opposes power to prevent these atrocious assassinations of negro soldiers. equally for them. in addition to cruel treatment from the confederates what they would expect, to worry about treatment from their fellow union soldiers. not only their fellow union soldiers, but also civilians in the town. a lot of people harbor prejudice views against african american soldiers. these stories will show the hardships and conditions that african american soldiers had to endure as they fought for the union. on the other side that, there were stories of white officers supporting their black soldiers. and these papers were showing this. there is one instance the newspaper entitled th

highway for the wisconsin african-american soldier from company f 29th color troops instead of jefferson davis. i think that is an absolutely and totally appropriate response to something that should not have been there to begin with. i am so happy they did that and the great-granddaughter of mr. stewart was the first descendent of one of the black veterans that i may contact with. and she has been very supportive with this and was very much a mover in getting this name change. that's one story i wanted to make sure i got in there. kevin: that is an excellent story, and definitely needs to be remembered. one thing i really enjoyed about the book is that it is not just a book of stories. it's an excellent resource to actually go through the last part of your book. you've got these wonderful tables that have all the information about every person you found. one thing that i found fascinating was just it goes on for pages. you think you know the stories aren't well known to be honest. you ask the random person off the street you know how many african-americans served from wisconsin in the civil w

and lincoln no better than jefferson davis. but not before lincoln makes another unusual alliance.with a long-time critic, frederick douglas. worth discussing. not only because president trump thinks he is doing a good job, but because david blithe has written such a great biography. so lincoln asked douglas to the white house and got him to agree on this amazing plan. and is sending african-american recruits into the united states to alert as many enslaved people as possible. that the emancipation was effect basically that they should get out of the area, go to the nearest camp, attach themselves to the union army and liberate themselves. it is an executive order. and then atlanta changes everything and lincoln wins 55% of the vote on election day. he does basically as well as he did in 1860 in most places. and this is an amazing graph of the ground gathering outside of the capital. as you see from the shine, it is a cloudy and rainy day. lincoln is again ready to examine new themes. now at the peak of his skills. the war is really winding down. he might have gone with a triumph v

similar to jefferson davis to the confederate states of america. trump has taken the government of america. the presidency, itself, out of america and put it into another state, his state. and the legacy of this has got to be removed, we have got to cleanse ourselves of what he has done to our country, including his negligent homicide, really, in terms of the hundreds of thousands of american who's have died because of covid. partly because of his standing by and not be on the job. >> carl bernstein, we appreciate you being with us today, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> we will leave with you pictures of the martin luther king memorial in atlanta. our breaking coverage begins right afte >>> good monday morning, everyone, i'm poppy harlow. >> i'm jim scuitto, welcome to a holiday. the nations capital is on lockdown as president trump's days in office wind down. just two to go, fencing, barricades and listen to this. some 25,000 national guard troops filling washington, d.c. as president-elect biden

if they don't impeach him, it's like not impeaching jefferson davis that led the confederacy.we need to go to the heart of this insurgency. we need senators to stand up, particularly republicans like dan newhouse. who voted to advance this effort. we need some people in the senate to show some spine. >> let's talk about the other pandemic, the coronavirus pandemic. the trump administration said they would release all of the vaccine, all of the reserve. you slammed the administration for lying about it because there was no reserve to hand out. have you received a response? >> the response is like it has been, you just go fish. they told them there was a reserve on hand that would be available for the second dose. it was not just off by 1%. it was off by 180%. they told us it didn't exist. why did they do that to us? to republicans and democrats alike. i can't explain it. it is beyond administration. i will tell you that some time ago when they were looking up children and trying to ban muslims, i said something that has been proven true. it has been the situation throughout wit

he will be seen as insurgent figure, as i keep saying, like a jefferson davis in the civil war or benedictrnold. i don't think he'll be considered seriously in the club of presidents after january 6th. >> listen, you just talked about some of this but can you -- let's dig a little bit deeper. biden is going to take over on wednesday. he's facing a pandemic that has taken almost 400,000 lives. massive employment, racial division. has any president ever dealt with challenges of this scale and this magnitude? >> it's large. i think it's like franklin d. roosevelt in 1933 when there was a long drawn out period between hoover and fdr and you have the 100 days of the new deal where we had to have a civilian conservation corps. giving unemployed jobs or tennessee valley for electrification. on and on you'll see biden having to do quickly a sort of marshall plan for covid-19 and how do you -- how do we log gistically get people vaccinated or shots in the arms? it has to be a major event to get it done. it needs to be in a bipartisan way. there will be very likely we'll see a specters of the senate

he's going to be remembered more in terms of benedict arnold and jefferson davis, figures like this. idea when you have all that power that he's had and then you lose it and then all the lawsuits that are going to come out of, he's in deep trouble. i wouldn't be surprised if in coming years the name trump will be taken down at his buildings in chicago and new york because they'll be seen as hate speech, his very name. that's how bad things are because of what he did on january 6th, 2021. >> yeah, i'm not sure in chicago, new york, most of his buildings or many of them, the names will come down. >> yeah. >> yeah. thank you douglas. thanks anthony. did you want to say something quickly? >> i was just saying everything doug is saying isn't enough. that kind of punishment isn't enough for what he's done. that's all. >> thank you guys. i'll see you soon. republican senators apologizing for contesting the election, well, kind of. why senator james lankford said he didn't realize trump's lies amounted to racist allegations. you...look...stunning. want the truth to why i wake up feeling rawr

of america in charge of hostage prisoner of war swaps for the confederacy, also goes on to be jefferson davis' lawyer, but at the time, he is the deputy u.s. attorney. key was not actually the best u.s. attorney. he's there basically because of his family name, because of his political connections. ould does a lot of the work. key's is also intermittently sick, doesn't travel. i thought it was interesting that he really vexed robert ould in life by putting all this work off on him, and now by dying, he has given him the hardest case under the biggest microscope in the world. he would be appointed by president buchanan to replace key as u.s. attorney. i think this might be a singular phenomenon in american history where you actually have to wait for a new u.s. attorney to be appointed in a murder case because the other one has been killed. so he's got this incredible lineup. they are trying this case in front of judge crawford who has been appointed by president polk and has resided over every major trial in washington, d.c., up to that point. one of the things that struck me about this book w

the world will hold an equally with jefferson davis responsibility. next.eatment from the confederate, which i guess they would kind of expect, black soldiers also had to worry about treatment from the fellow union soldiers. not only their fellow union soldiers, but also civilians in the town. a lot of people harvard purchase views against african american soldiers, these stories are printed to this show the hardships and the conditions of african american soldiers are having to fight for the union. now, on the other side of that, there were stories of white officers supporting their black soldiers. newspapers were showing this, they were supporting those soldiers. there was one instance with the newspapers entitled right spirit, and colonel james alexander who commanded the first -- in tennessee, he wrote to the memphis bulletin, basically said, these are well drilled and disciplined colored soldiers. they are not here to wage war against, you they heard for the rebels, defend the country. they are here to protect you. so, they are faithfully obeying order

in the early days mcclelland have been viewed as the peace maker and lincoln, know better than jefferson davis, as a divisive force. -- divisive force. things turn. but not until lincoln makes another unusual alliance with a longtime critic, the abolitionist frederick douglass. worth discussing, not only because president trump thinks he's doing a great job, that was in the press last year, but because david light has written such a great biography of frederick douglass that won a pulitzer prize and a rash of other well deserved awards. douglass is in the news. lincoln asked douglass to the white house and got him to agree on this amazing plan to send african american recruits into the confederate states where possible, and alert as many enslaved people as possible, that the emancipation was in effect. that they should basically get out of the area, go to the nearest union camp, attach themselves to the union army, and liberate themselves. because the emancipation proclamation is an executive order. and as we know, presidents can issue new executive orders. then, atlanta changes everything and

had to be faced in order to be on that floor, and to have -- it would be january 1, 1861 that jefferson davisns my conviction more than ever to deal with this scourge we have in this nation, this violent scourge of white supremacy, which i've watched trump administration officials testify before congress that the greatest terrorist threat in this nation killing more than any other type of terrorism since 9/11 is right-wing extremism and white supremacy from a black church in northcarolina to a church in pittsburgh, that americans don't realize the urgency meet what we saw take over the capitol that day. >> stephen: to see that flag be carried in a violent attack on the u.s. capitol, i think once and forever buries the old lie that it's about cultural or regional heritage. it's just about hate. >> yes, and it is this failure to recognize not just the hatred and the bigotry, but a fairly to recognize what we could be as a people, a multi-racial democracy, speaking not towards a specific culture or race, but speaking towards the highest ideals of humanity that us differences of diversity or yet

that's why after the civil war, confederate president jefferson davis had to get a job at best buy.the last impeachment was presided over by chief justice john roberts. but, reportedly, roberts did not enjoy the first trial and is opting out this time, as new senate majority leader chuck schumer explained. >> so it was up to john roberts whether he wanted to preside with a president who's no longer sitting. and he doesn't want to do it. >> stephen: well, at least he has a sound constitutional reason: he doesn't want to. as the constitution says, "when the president of the united states is tried, the chief justice shall preside unless he's not in the mood, in which case, we wouldn't want to inconvenience the big baby with saving the republic." so now they've decided it's going to be overseen by senate president pro tempore and man pat leahy of vermont. leahy, a democrat, has already voted once to convict the 45th president and remove him from office, so republicans say he's not impartial. but leahy has proven he's committed to the fight for justice, because-- this is true-- he's been

i mean, this is a president who has been more jefferson davis than thomas jefferson. and you know, to pick up on what carl was saying a few moments ago, the fact we've never had a president of the united states foment a riot and insurrection and a potential takeover of another branch of government in the way that we saw with president trump. and i think the key question that republicans are going to have to deal with during the senate impeachment trial is whether that crime goes unpunished. and i think that has the potential to take the trump stain that is on the trump brand and really just paint with a broad brush, you know, i guess another shameful stroke across members of his own party unlike what we saw during the watergate saga. obviously, richard nixon was guilty of a great many things but there were good republicans who took it upon themselves to make sure that richard nixon was not able to get away with what he was trying to get away with. it's a very different situation with donald trump because you know, the republicans might once again in a second impeachme

would you interview jefferson davis about taxes or health care? does any position matter more than rejecting the election? it's an interesting question from lease man. i read a quote from the acclaimed sociologist. she says if there is one thing i think the mainstream press gets wrong about trump is that they are comfortable talking about economics and personality, but they don't give primacy to feelings. to feelings. well, should the feelings matter? i know they do matter. they matter enormously. this is all about feelings. not about fact. i think she has a point, right? the press is not used to talking about the feelings of voters and that's what's driving this, or in the case of the president, the 's narcissist i can feelings about losing? >> yeah, i would make that point slightly differently. we can't focus just on feelings because mr. trump has the most important feelings. it's always the rich and the powerful whose feelings get a lot of attention, right? and we are getting that right now, right? this is a privileged, very privileged minority

for example, at the end of the civil war, when jefferson davis was on the run and nobody could quiteigure out what to do with him, lincoln did not want to try him for treason. lincoln wished that the davis problem would simply go away. lincoln was all in favor of a very speedy and lenient reconstruction. but he had to have sort of some policy about what to do with confederate leaders. lincoln said it brings me in mind of this baptist that i used to know. this baptist was quite opposed to the use of any alcoholic beverages. but he came down with a fever. and his doctor prescribed a certain amount of whiskey, once a day. and the baptist couldn't decide whether to follow his conscious or his doctors orders. he told his wife, there's a punch bowl over there and if unbeknownst to me you could slip a little bit of that whiskey into the bunch, then i could drink it and all would be well. well, says lincoln, if somehow mr. davis could slip out of the country unbeknownst to me, then much of our problem would go away. the institution of the presidency changed dramatically at the end of the 19t

jefferson davis, future president of the confederacy and says this is a really waste of federal dollarsourse when you try to do is denigrate the message of the farewell. one of the reasons it's in the new york public private library is by private entity, because congress was dissuaded from buying it. after the civil war, or during the civil war washington as we've been allowed to troops to remind them for what they are fighting for. after the civil war, and becomes part of standard curriculum in american schools as a way of binding the nations wounds. it is amazing literature there's all these contests the late 19th century that i got examples out in the book. students were committed to memory, did win awards for oratory. this is 6000 word address. you are memorizing this in school. this is a standard part of the curriculum. and the explicit point was maybe if we remember the wisdom of washington's warning, we would've had the civil war. that's the idea. and it's a mainstay of debate right up in through, world war i. that is the key pivotal moment. what's fascinating is you have a great

home and rode the train to sandusky, where bystanders accuse him of being an escaped prisoner or jefferson davis himself. bramlett then encountered an irishman who complained of being defrauded by abolitionists and hope the confederates would cut the bloody yankee dogs to pieces. bramlett confessed his identity, and the irishman referred him to a wealthy democrat who helped him reach winters. he then eventually sailed to nassau and charlston to freedom. at charlston, he reported the canadians were almost a unit in favor of the south. wasall abolitionists, as he led to believe. canadians said that free blacks were a great people in the community, constituted the only population in canada, and wished areas where they might be made useful. these were a significant boost for southern morale. northern newspapers combated confederate rhetoric emphasizing power that union authority is exercised over escaped confederate prisoners and the ingenuity of union prisoners who fled confederate prisons. in june 1854, the cleveland leader reported a foiled escape plot. p.o.w.'s removed a plank and dug a tunnel b

and jefferson davis, future president of the confederacy, then-mississippi senator, says this is a reallyf federal dollars. of course, what he's trying to do is denigrate the message of the farewell. one of the reasons it's in the new york public library is it's bought by a private entity because congress was dissuaded from trying it because it was seen as profulgate during the time. jefferson has it read aloud to troops to remind them. what they're fighting for. and after the civil war it becomes part of standard curriculum in american schools as a way of binding the nation's wounds. and there's amazing literature. there are all these contests that occur in the late 19th century which i've got examples of in the book where students would commit it to memory. they would win awards for oratory. this is a 6,000-word address and they're memorizing this. and this was a standard part of the curriculum. and the explicit point was is that maybe if we'd remembered the wisdom of washington's warning, we wouldn't have had the civil war. that's the idea. and it is a mainstay of debate right up and t

he's benedict arnold or jefferson davis. joe mccarthy. lyndon larouche. because of his lack of civility and the fact that he did the one thing you can't do and that's incite an insurrection, allow our democracy to be attacked. but it's scary to have seven days left with him -- >> hold on for a moment. these are the mouse impeachment managers who are walking through statuary hall right now to the rayburn room in the u.s. capitol. there's the speaker, nancy pelosi, and representative steny hoyer, who's the number two. james clyburn the number 3. they're walking through statuary hall right now. they're going to be going into this historic room. it's called the rayburn room. right off statuary hall over there. to engage in this engrossment ceremony, which is the formal signing and certification of the bill and then the eventual delivery of the documents to the u.s. senate, where there will be a formal trial. they're walking in right now. you see congressman jamie raskin, the lead house impeachment manager, the congressman from maryland walking in first. i don

in all the mining districts in idaho, the fallen friends of jefferson davis are less latent to their denunciations of the government. a profound oblivion awaits them that knows no awakening. others were a bit more careful. the daily central city register said we cannot say where the matter will end or how much bad news we may have yet have occasion to record, but we are determined to rejoice while we may. as the confederacy started to collapse, it turned out the register was right. the confederacy survived as long after gettysburg as before, almost, but faith in ultimate victory remained strong. the union and dakotaian, in january 1864, said the fact that is becoming settled in the minds of everyone that sooner or later , the rebels must yield. if there's anything in the signs of the times, we must certainly conclude that the war in which we are now engaged is speedily drawing to a close. the paper again predicted a quick victory in august of 1864. but it was better informed about sherman's march, writing, "the hand of war will bring a scourge upon them that a century cannot efface."

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>> well, he was good confederacy, bad jefferson davis, bad grant, good. robert e. lee, bad >> okay. >> slavery, bad. >> anyone in favor of slaves this is the 13th amendment bad. anyone in favor of - >> how did this happen >> with that in mind, the house has begun debate on impeaching the president. wewill monitor that in additio to a lot of calls today, would he have the street commenting on master card visa, home depot, jpm, and exxon, overweight for the first time in seven years. back in a moment ♪ ♪ why do you build me up, build me up... ♪ ♪ buttercup... ♪ ♪ baby just to let me down! ♪ ♪ let me down! ♪ ♪ and mess me around... ♪ ♪ and worst of all, worst of all ♪ if you ride, you get it. geico motorcycle. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. hey, dad! geicohey, son!le. no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that? is that how you hold a mirror? [ding] power e*trade gives you an award-winning mobile app with powerful, easy-to-use tools and interactive char

that was a comment made during the debate about the compromise of 1855 and senator jefferson davis who a number of years later chose to violate his oath to the constitution and the nation, to choose his interest in his constituents, or at least a narrow segment of his constituents were allowed to vote at the time he chose to elevate their concerns over those of the nation and constitution. now, onto this issue. this is such an easy case in such a hard one. they can easily because general austin is so very qualified, and it's important to note not disqualified as a military leader. he has not been out of the military and he is engaged in significant leadership roles in the private sector and in philanthropic institutions. this is not a person who is just a television military guy. it's just that he's not been out long enough. .. us don't apply and he has written a piece in the atlantic to suggest we should not do it. that is a hard thing. i wish i had researched this. is this bar of somebody having come through military leadership serving as secretary of defense is there an analogy, our

that makes this unlike any other time since jefferson davis became president of the confederacy. i know a lot of people support donald trump who like drawing that parallel. well, it is an accurate parallel because jefferson was a traitor to the united states of america, and so is donald trump. and he continues to be. and if any of his supporters don't think he is, i'd love to know what their justification is. because this is a riot that started to kill the vice president of the united states and to kill the speaker of the house and to tear to shreds the capitol. and look at the pictures of them banging on the doors wanting to kill people, saying they were coming for them. screaming in anger and disgust when they went through the senate chambers, screaming, where are they, where did they go. ed luce, i've been talking to several pretty well-played sources through the weekend. i've been talking to friends in journalism. they're all coming to the same conclusion about mitch mcconnell. saying we're not going to take this up in the nicks week or so. he was somehow trying to protect the

bragging about the monuments act that this act was going to punish people who tried to take down jefferson davis's, look, people tried to attack the people's house. prosecute every damn one of them exactly like you would have prosecuted the people this past summer. >> sandra: how do you do it? we've got the f.b.i. tip line out asking for anybody to call in. you recognize a face and know anything, when you see it, call. how do you move forward with an investigation to insure these people are held accountable, trey? >> social media, witness interviews, you are going the need people that were there that did not participate in the mayhem to cooperate. but you have a lot of footage. you've got police officers who can also identify people if they saw them up close enough. that idiot sitting in the chair, that's pretty good evidence. when you have somebody sitting in the speaker's chair. when you have somebody sitting on the floor of the senate. that's pretty good evidence. look, i'm a fan of law enforcement. every case they investigate has evidentiary challenges but yet they need them. this case won't b