he has to talk to jefferson davis jameson. to me inferiors you know let lee run with it if you want to win this war let robert e lee run with it, but they don't allow him to do that and by that time the union armies allowed to lick its wounds and to shadow him as it moves north. lead looking at his loss of his his general officers. over the seven days to gettysburg. he loses 91 general officers killed wounded captured in battle. and if you look from the seven days to gettysburg, he started the seven days battle with 92,500 men. and over a 13-month plus period he lost almost that exact number of men. lease style warfare will grind this army down he knew that he had to try to do something to win. by the end of the war, he will sustain 205,000 casualties a lot of people like to compare him and grant with with casualties numbers and always call grant a butcher, but when you compare it, it's almost a one-to-one ratio of what lee lost to the federals now some people say well there's a lot of surrenders in there. yeah. well, yeah, bu

they're bowing down to jefferson davis. the confederate president the republicans want to depict the democrats as being subservient to the traders of the south. the republicans are going to make a lot of hay out of this democratic platform and also the division of the democratic ticket between a war pro-war democrat and an anti-war democrat. so here you have mcclellan as two-faced and you know one side of his face. he's talking about pro war the other side. he's sounding peace and he's standing on a very rickety platform. and if you look at the platform we've talked about this before when we talked about benedict arnold a very long time ago. the devil is a very strong image in when you look at cartoons about trees and so the devil and jefferson davis and clement the landingham and another new york democrat are holding up the democratic platform here. the republicans are going to depict the democrats as weak a weak. peace horse pulling the chicago platform. here you have a lot of devils again treason and devils are very prom

it became clear that jefferson davis was not there and back -- ritual is not going to give way. he wanted the confederacy to be an independent nation and he was not prepared to give up on slavery. then a very short time, dave -- it was not a negotiating room because that was days lincoln was not prepared to do. lincoln had the idea that may be for $400 million to see if he could drive the confederacy and and by the slaves. when he floated that front of his cabinet, they said no. excellent question. i will take you back more to that particular time in congress, and social look at in 1864. one an important term in congress, to lace them 1850. good question. anybody else. >> mr. flood. would you mind elaborating on lincoln's plan for reconstruction ended johnson really followed those. >> i think i'd rather go to a very broad strokes give you the spirit rather than the details because am not sure of it really worked on nuts and bulls to the extent. he had already been trying to bring states back into the union as their territory fell. he wanted the country -- and not with ever to be

in the confederacy at any point in the war was would you rather be in the confederacy run by jefferson davis and people you don't like or would you rather be under the control of abraham lincoln and his government which of those two things would you prefer and i think the overwhelming response would have been well, i i hate jefferson davis. i don't like what they're doing. i don't like conscription. i don't like impressment but under the lincoln government. are you kidding me? they're going to destroy the whole social system that we have in the confederacy. so i do think there was confederate. national sentiment and i think it flowed naturally from a sense from an identity as white southerners before the war. they're already was a sense of of communal identity before the civil war and i think that sense of being a white southerner. easily became a sense of being a confederate because a lot of the same things went into those two attitudes. i don't think that's a big leap for people and a good example of that is is robert e lee. he's often talked about. oh, he's just a virginian. he's a virgin

slavery and is supportive ideology of white supremacy slaveholders from thomas, jefferson to jefferson davis did not hesitate to label the united states the land of freedom while insisting on the inferiority of those they felt justified in enslaving. the big problem for the united states. was that ever more states rejected slavery and those still guilty of racist policies these states insisted on freedom for their citizens of african heritage. so what happens when a black citizen of a free state travels to a slave state or slave finds his way into a free state? it is important to note that racism warped every aspect of american law politics society culture and language for instance given attendency of white slave owners to rate their female slaves leading to lighter skinned children it often became difficult to define blackness. and what happened when black sailors for the united states navy was integrated stepped assurance slaves state in 1822, south carolina declared that they would be sold into slavery the supreme court declared their law and constitution, but south carolina did not care.

and william james he won a prize also, in the senior year and he wrote about jefferson davis. and he wrote about the south and the rise of slavery. from there he applied to graduate school, but first he wanted to go to germany. and he wanted to go to germany for several reasons. first because -- because of the way women people learn unpack all knowledge. the way they use facts. has any way or seen the movie kodak and he says just the facts baby. so basically w.e.b. du bois wanted to learn just the facts. he says i don't need a preacher, just show me the way i find the battle myself. so he spent two years in germany. he wanted to get a doctorate in germany. at hamburg university. but his german peers, resented him because he was in many ways smarter, and he protested that he did not get his doctorate there. at the same time he was in germany, he has different feelings. he sees the racism of his fellow students, even though he walks running journey he see something different, he doesn't experience that racism. it is what he became later on he talks about the dualism of things. i

word of that got back to the federal president, jefferson davis, and then he declared war. roger atkinson pryor was actually given the opportunity, it was called the honor, to become the person who fired the first gun of the civil war, and he said no. later on, when blair was in college, he actually regretted all of his decisions and he became a judge in new york. blair's mother was extremely liberal. she actually had a school that she had in her house for the former slaves in the neighborhood kids because there was no school for them back then. i was interested in why blair became an advocate for the marginalized and oppressed. and i think that was the reason of her family history. she had to atone for it in some way. and she also believed it was so wrong that she didn't do that. i also tended to like the really brazen, outspoken women. [laughter] jayne: anna heyward taylor was one of them. i went down to the library and read her diaries. she's a real trip. she was a leader in the charleston renaissance art movement. she actually worked with blair's ex-husband as a scienti

if you secede we will succeed as well that word of that got back to the confederate president jefferson davis and then he declared war. and then roger atkinson prior was actually given the opportunity. it was called the honor. to become the person who? who fired the first? gun of the civil war and he said no, he said no and later on he when when blair was in college. he actually regretted all his decisions and he became a judge in new york. but i think as a result of that blair's niles mother was extremely liberal. she was extremely liberal. she actually had a a school she had in her house for the former slaves and the neighborhood kids because there was no school for them back then so, you know i was interested in why? blair became an advocate for the marginalized in oppressed and i think that was the reason her family history. she had to atone for it in some way and she also believed it was so wrong that she she didn't do that. i also intended to like the really brazen outspoken women and anna taylor was one of them. i went down to the south caroliniana library and read her diaries. she's a

when jefferson davis walked out of the senate, he's walking out saying i am walking out to protect slavery no question. two reasons to celebrate, one to rewrite the past or two, continue to believe that rebels did that slavery was a positive good. >> well, you said everything in the last couple of sentences you said, because that's indeed the truth. when the confederate flag was taken down from the capitol in 2015, it seems like it is such a historic moment. here we are talking about the holiday in the same state honoring losers and traitors. why take the flag down and maintain an official government holiday? towards the number of south carolinians and others continuing to deny the civil war had much to do with slavery and denied they succeeded and protect and expand slavery. it was not just in 1861 when the confederacy was found. it was throughout the 1850s, southerners trying to expand and required neuterw territories. southerners were the true conservative, they were trying to conserve an institution that were eliminated throughout -- >> more slaves in the south than anywhere else in th

somebody else says at the university of texas at the center for american history, the statue of jefferson davis moved from the center of campus to the museum and next to the statue, creators explain the history of the statues, their context as well as the student activism to remove them. does that offer inappropriate balance? history isn't being a race but we also aren't monitoring it. that is a good idea and makes a lot of sense. another student says for a point of information, it is now called the princeton school for public and international affairs. i think that is something that we could look at. i want to quickly share my screen again and show you a couple of images of some current monuments that i think will give you a sense of this. these were not yet up when i got this photo. the photo might be a little old. the memphis suffrage monument talking about equality trailblazers. the person in the middle is supposed to be mary church terrell. i could not recognize her from this image. over at the far right is iw wells. there are attempts to create new monuments that tell different stories. a

. >> and he's even gone so far has to meet with jefferson davis and say, hey why don't you and the confederates just go deal with the front problem and then you can become king of mexico, whatever the case may be. >> so -- >> for those listening, i think, you know, if you don't gain anything else from our conversation today, we know that we have secret cinco de mayo, hell i didn't know. did you know actually? >> no i did not. >> i'm going to be able to celebrate now with some historical exist for the holidays that have never had before. thank you for that. keep pushing on, i promise i won't keep cutting you off. >> when you get drunk on cinco de mayo, just remember why you are getting drunk. but anyway, so there is this conflict boiling in mexico, and a lot of union veterans, while their interest was going on, and the idealized until they -- then be remembered whether didn't actually like it. but all of a sudden, you see this real wave of people and it's not just people from one state or one region, i mean it's not just the elites in washington, as far as i can discern, a really broad wave of f

texas within the dolph brisco's center for african-american or for american history the statue of jefferson davis moved from the center of campus to the museum and then next to the statue creators explain the history of the statues their context as well as the student activism to remove them. does that offer an appropriate balance? history isn't being a race, but we all so aren't honoring it. yeah, i think that's a good idea. it makes a lot of sense. um, another student says just for a point of information that the woodrow wilson institute is now called the princeton school of public and international affairs, and i think that you know, that that's something that we can look at. i do want to quickly share my screen again. and show you a couple of last images of some current monuments that i think will give you a sense of this. these are not or maybe up but they were not yet up when i when i got this photo or the photo might be a little old but it's of this memphis suffrage monument talking about equality trailblazers, and the person in the middle is supposed to be mary church terrell, although to

when jefferson davis walked out of the senate, he walked out saying that i am walking out to protectere was no question. and the only -- there's two reasons why one could celebrate confederate memorial day. one, is to rewrite the past, and say that it really wasn't about slavery. or to -- or to believe -- to continue to believe, as rebels did, that slavery was a positive good. >> uh-huh. well, you said everything, in the last couple sentences you said. because that is, indeed, the truth. when the confederate flag was taken down, professor, from the capitol in 2015. it seemed like such an historic moment. here we are, talking about a holiday in the same state honoring losers and traitors. why take the flag down, but then maintain an official-government holiday? >> as i think it's a gesture toward the large number of white-south carolinians and other white southerners who continue to deny that the civil war had much to do with slavery. to continue to deny that they seceded, they committed an act of treason to protect and expand slavery. and it wasn't just in 1861, when they -- when the

back then but he has ptsd and he he is on a road trip with the other spy and try to assassinate jefferson davis and they didn't because that would be historical fiction. but i was like, you know what? i really wanted him to have -- he deserved to -- okay, this is getting weird but in the scope of that book and that character, i didn't feel that what hey had been through -- i like the ending of the bike gave him but i was like i feel like he deserves more because america has done him and all black people dirty, and he deserved more than he got and i was like i real -- i feel like there are movies and shows that have come out that have been kind of -- had the promise of catharsis and then not have the catharsis forgiveness is great in some ways, but catharsis is necessary even if just in a book nor a movie, because obviously we're not trying to go out and do anything tarnal in real life but that's what fiction can be for to kind of address the -- for me i was like at the end when i'm sending to my editor, wonder what she'll say about this and she was lake, indicate great, cool. and i was happy ab

yeah and francis preston blair has even gone so far as to meet with jefferson davis and say hey, why don't you in the confederates? just go deal with the french problem problem and then you could become. king of mexico whatever the case may be. oh for that, right? yeah. we're not gonna do that. so my -- in other words, sorry, that's long background folks right so you go for those listening i think, you know if you don't gain anything else from our conversation today, we know now why we have cinco de mayo hell, i didn't know did you know ashley? no, i did not absolutely i'm gonna be able to celebrate now with you know some historical zest for the holiday, which i've never had before. okay? yeah, but keep pushing on i promise i will know that's okay pete as i tell my students when you get drunk on cinco de mayo. just remember why you're getting drunk. yeah, but anyway, right there's this conflict boiling in mexico and a lot of union veterans, you know, we often think well, they're interested was going home and you know the home they idealized until they got there and remembered why the

lincoln was besieged by ministers and politicians telling him god is on our side and he knew that jefferson davis was being besieged by politicians and ministers saying god is on our side. i love this photograph, a thoughtful lincoln. lincoln is working this out and he never thought anybody would ever see this document, but as you think about it for a while, you realize, it really is the foundation of the second inaugural address. however you date it, a year before, or two and a half years before, lincoln is asking the question, really, where is god in the midst of the civil war? sometimes i think it's been misunderstood in a couple of different ways. one, lincoln doesn't know. no, lincoln is humble, he's not going to be so arrogant to say i know. but he does believe that there's a force working in the civil war, often the historians have used the term fatalism to make that death the general of lincoln's thinking as thinking. i've discovered a book written by an episcopal minister in 1859 a man one of the first professors of the first episcopal seminary, he says that it was a variety of belief no

there are no treason trials, jefferson davis is arrested for treason, he sits in castle island for a year and then let go. even though confederate troops who committed war trying spy the definition of war crime at the time, for example, slaughtering black soldiers who are surrendering. selling captured black shoulders into slavery when robert e. lee barges into pennsylvania. even as he is scampering back to virginia, having his army destroyed, he takes time to capture free blacks in pennsylvania and drag them back to the south and sell them as slaves. when he debated maryland, he did the same thing. maryland was a slave state but half the people are free by the time of the war. the south is committing war crimes but we don't prosecute anybody except captain them works of andersonville. in addition to that, i want to give you a very quick supreme court history. i don't want to go into the details of cases. if anyone wants, i'm happy to give you suggestions, i suppose i would say the first place to start is a book called the march of liberty, that is a two volume constitutional history

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