we were pathetic, but the whole idea was to keep jim jefferts with us. and we had a good quartet, and one night we sang with barbara boxer and then we realized the problem of the senate, they could not harmonize. th first time in the senate and we honored shawn concon -- sean connery, and i asked her if i knees were as good as his and she didn't even laugh. but we tried to keep it loose. i found out that as a partisan a warrior, i could keep an attitude and not get anything done or work across the aisle to get some things done. that is the journey of the leader, you learn the rules and go u there the process and then you wake up and say, look, i'm here to try to make a difference and therefore i will make a way to work with the democratic and secretary of agriculture dan glickman and i want to be fair and honest with everybody as i can be and i want to be a way to do bipartisan ways, and of course, a lot of it depends on the personalities and the time we were there it was tom and me and bill clinton was president, and he was a challenge and opportunity,