jeffery rush. who collapsed into a seizure and died. but despite stories like russ, most music festivals won't allow his kits on to the premises. >> the first year when we were doing this, we were very upfront, trying to get more pigs. and received nothing in response. and from there, we just decided to stop asking and start doing. just going without asking. >> yes. >> and sometimes that means smuggling in the your testing kits? >> i means that event time. we bribe food truck owners, was put them in black duffel bags and throw them over fences, we do whatever it takes. the police operate in a gray area. and festival organizations them are subject to the rave act, can themmize organizers. they can have their land seized something like that, and they think that having us there toasting substances means that they are allowing drug use to go on. the police isn't the first to offer the drug kits although they may be the most aggressive, they are part of a larger harm reduction movement. the goal should be minimizing the harm. making overdoses, less common, making themles