the security of the united states this is not happening with an american soldier exactly and jeffrey dahmer at a cannibal este cannibal got more due process and fair treatment wasn't tortured and bradley manning is been already subjected to torture and already declared without having a trial first declared by so many people to be guilty reversing the usual prose. of innocent until proven guilty well just when you said you expect to see and hoped that you would see more outrage hard for that to happen when so few media outlets are even covering it are making it a story hopefully this will pick up as the trial continues appreciate having you on the show just thank you very much christine justin is the director of national security and human rights for the government accountability project well it is one of the longest running annual gatherings in this country and yet it's one of the least well known bohemian grove is a two week gathering for some of the most wealthy and powerful men in the world and takes place just outside of san francisco in a town called mon to rio those who have attended

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bizarre behavior that we saw in so many other cases of individuals, the charles mansons and the jeffrey dahmerse unabomber. we don't have that, at least that we know of, in his case. that may be determined in the future investigation. his computer records, hopefully, and i know the law enforcement investigators are going to put a lot of stock in getting that computer, being able to crack whatever pass codes he has on there and try to see, hopefully the information will be there, who has he been in contact with, what websites has he gone to, and also socially. ter.asn't been on facebook. or is other website, he may be the person on there. that will be an important thing, because it might lead to other people that he was meeting with or exchanging messages with, that we just don't know about, that his parents wouldn't have known about or other friends. >> we can learn more about his mindset and character, as well. tom, thank you very much, sir. >> thank you, don. >> this is a black mark on our history, but there were brave people who stepped up, making their mark on history. one person is matt m

jeffrey dahmer knew what was wrong or right. those people are crazy under our definition.ition, not so much. >> all right. karen, thank you so much. what's fascinating also is there's such a tight gag order in place. everyone is so eager to know what kind of information authorities have, but right now we're not going to be getting a whole heck of a lot of it. it will be interesting to see the charges. thank you so much. >>> well, let's get you up to speed now. syrians are fleeing the country's biggest city, aleppo. take a listen. and the arab league is warning of war crimes there. the u.n. estimates 200,000 have fled in the past two days. the free syrian army, meantime, is taking the fight to the government fighters at an army base. >> i've been watching a rebel attack on a syrian army base located just outside the northern limits of that city of aleppo. it started around sunset with a great deal of rocket fire and mortar fire and machine gunfire. and we've basically been watching constant tracer fire at night focused on this syrian army base and emerge hadding from this s