jeffrey epstein at that time.don't know. >> we don't know. >> but he does -- he's not recusing himself because of that. >> well, the thing that's so weird to me is not in isolation that he hired him without, you know, the requisite experience, it's that, you know, sexual predation of this type, it's not something that starts when you're 35 or 45, right? if, you know, that's consistent and holds here and obviously the prosecution yesterday made an eloquent presentation sort of explaining some of this. he probably had some of these behaviors that folks were aware of at the time. the fact you're hiring someone who has no experience and this predation towards teenage girls and is trafficking girls, according to the paperwork filed yesterday. that's what bothers me. it's not hiring an inexperienced person. maybe he had great relationships. people get jobs all the time. it's the fact that he's a predator and you're placing him with potential victims and nobody's stepping in to say, wait, hold up, this person, we need to

what could jeffrey epstein offer to the prosecutors that might be worth more than prosecuting jeffrey epstein? >> from where i sit, it would have to be something extraordinary. as a general matter, prosecutors don't like to give cooperation agreement to child sex traffickers. for good reason. it's the worst of the worst and would have to be really extraordinary information for them to take that kind of extraordinary step into trying to cooperate. that doesn't mean he won't try or there won't be a discussion, but i would be absolutely shocked in they offered somebody charged with not just a one off case, but the pattern of doing this over years with as they say in the indictment and in the detention memo, dozens of victims in both florida and new york. i would be shock if they offered him a cooperation agreement. >> tim, very thorough statement by bill clinton tonight. if any piece of that proves to be untrue, that would be a big problem, but he's never been to the private island and some accused him of being. donald trump, i can't imagine donald trump issuing a statement with that kin

here's what donald trump said about his old friend, jeffrey epste epstein. i have known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. he likes beautiful women as much as i do and many of r of them are on the younger side. no doubt about it, jeffrey enjoys his social life. on the younger side. donald trump knew about jeffrey epstein and what donald trump called the younger side. terrific guy. that's what jeffrey epstein was to donald trump. to this day donald trump has not said a negative word about jeffrey epstein. donald trump has attacked the leaders of countries that are the strongest allies and attacked congressman justin amash this weekend for leaving the republican party. donald trump attacked elizabeth warren, chuck schumer, attacked me. he attacked hundreds and hundreds and thousands of people and never once said a single negative word about jeffrey epstein, not one word. jeffrey epstein does did not see it coming when his private plane took off from paris. >> epstein was arrested this past saturday evening at the airport aboard his private jet that had just lande

that's a jeffrey epstein special.g within the trump administration is that we have an alarmingly large number of men who either have been accused credibly or rape, accused of sexual assault, accused of domestic violence, who have found their way into the white house, into the administration where they find protection by the president who has been accused by some 17 women of his own just three weeks ago, we had a credible accusation of rape against our president. i think at this point, we can see the pattern. we understand that these men are not engaged in helping women. they don't care when it's young girls. we saw the republican party stand by roy moore in alabama after it came out he booabused y young girls. i think that told women what we needed to know whether republicans are going to take this seriously. >> acosta isn't accused of this, he's accused of handling the case badly. >> jeffrey epstein basically operated in open sight for a very long time because of men like acosta who were able to help him cover it. >>

at the time she said she was raped by jeffrey epstein. columnist at "the washington post" and msnbc contributor. the president of the center for american progress. ruth, let me begin with you and i open it to your reaction in any way you want. >> thanks. i have watched this interview and read the transcript of this interview so many times today. each time it becomes even more heart breaking and even more powerful. i'm struck by a few things. the degree to which this was part of a plan. a well orchestrate and a plan that unfolded over not weeks, but months. that led up to what she now understands is rape. i'm so interested that she took the step today to try to get the information about other perpetrators about the identity of the recruiter. jeffrey epstein, if he did what she says he did and did what he has been accused of by the southern district of new york, is a terrible, despicable actor and he didn't act alone. other people need to be brought to justice. i'm also struck equally by that sense of shame. that sense of self loathing and

jeffrey epstein stayed free. jeffrey epstein could not be held accountable for his alleged crimes toward courtney wild and those dozens of other women like her with that non-prosecution agreement still on the books in florida. in florida. over the weekend, federal prosecutors in new york city busted down the door of jeffrey epstein's manhattan mansion and arrested him at the airport after he landed in his private jet fresh off a vacation in france. this morning, jeffrey epstein was arraigned in federal court on federal sex trafficking charges in the state of new york. in this new indictment, prosecutors allege that between the years of 2002 and 2005, epstein abused dozens of underage girls at his homes in manhattan and in palm beach. the allegations are practically a mirror image of the allegations written up against epstein more than a decade ago in florida, the ones that were shelved by alex acosta. they cover the same period, the same crimes -- kinds of lurid sex crimes against children, but they are new charg

those are the kids who people like jeffrey epstein target. this he know they're desperate and sometimes a 13-year-old who is desperate for even $10 for something to eat, they are going to listen to one of these recruiters that epstein was using who says, oh, this is a glamorous thing, this guy is very wealthy, you are going to love it. all you have to do is give him a little massage and you are going to make a lot of money. it sounds great to a desperate child. as the indictment suggests, it's not quite that simple, they end up moving very quickly from giving epstein massages to sexual abuse and in a sense they get trapped. they get trapped in the lifestyle. so i think one of the most important things we heard today was this urging of victims to come forward. we are talking about dozens and dozens. that's the language that we heard. dozens and dozens of victims in new york and dozens and dozens of victims in florida. potentially, you know, 100 different victims are still out there. this indictment alleges only three different victims. we know

this is what jeffrey epstein did. he preyed on vulner young giabl girls.s no different than a scheme that uses violence. i don't know that there wasn't violence. some of the girls were raped and sexually assaulted. it's a good jail memo. it's exactly what the southern district expected. no surprises here. they will have a very good response and i look forward to reading it and i think he will be detained. >> he's asking a judge who in the past said this kind of house arrest for very rich people who can afford to hire private guards and all of that to guarantee they will show up is unfair to other defendants who cannot hire private guards and cannot provide the court with the same kind of guarantee that is it costs a tremendous amount of money to provide. >> you should not be able to buy your way out of detention. there is a left of that not being true in our country. in the federal system it is more fair and equal and there are good judges like the judge berman who understands that some guy willing to put up his town house, he is willing to put it up becau

cnn's brynn gingras is here with all of the latest developments and there are many. >> jeffrey epstein, an already registered sex offender, meaning this was no secret but he still had friends in high places, former president clinton, president trump, who in a 2002 interview called epstein a terrific guy. both have somewhat tried to distance themselves now while epstein is behind bars waiting a bail hearing next week. it may be harder for others like acosta to distance himself to the past connections for the multimillionaire. >> growing calls this morning for president trump's labor secretary alexander acosta to step down, over his handling of sex abuse allegations against multimillionaire jeffrey epstein when acosta was the u.s. attorney for florida's southern district a decade ago. a newly unsealed indictment charges the hedge fund manager with operating a sex trafficking ring where he is accused of sexually abusing dozens of underage girls in his new york city home. epstein pleaded not guilty to all charges monday. >> as alleged, epstein was well aware that many of his victims were m

>> jeffrey epstein.ower, i think the whole reason he got away for so long is the extraordinary network that he could bring down with him. that is why he has remained untouchable for so long. his friendships are big part of the story. amy: well, we will certainly continue to follow this. vicky ward investigative , journalist who profiled jeffrey epstein for vanity fair in 2003 in a piece headlined "the talented mr. epstein." shockingome back, the case in alabama were prosecutors have dropped manslaughter charges against a pregnant woman whose pregnancy ended after she were shot in the stomach a coworker, then sheer self was charged with manslaughter. stay with us. ♪ [music break] amy: "bim bom" by joao gilberto. the legendary brazilian composer and performer and father of bossa nova died saturday at the age of 88. this is democracy now!, i'm amy goodman. we turn now to alabama, where under immense public pressure prosecutors have dropped manslaughter charges against a pregnant womoman whose pregnanay ende

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he could see jeffrey epstein. he told me that jeffrey epstein's face did not move.ayed fixed on the judge. i could see him as you say from behind, bolt upright, shaven in the blue prison uniform. he was putting on the show of his life. he put it on, i have to say, today. this is a very big decision coming down on thursday. >> barbara mcquaid, this judge seems disinclined to give people bail, but when he finds we found one fake passport in one home and the judge knows he has a home in the virgin islands and another in paris and another in florida, how many fake passports does he have in safes in the other houses that someone in the epstein operation can get to him? >> this seems like a strong case for detention. normally there is a presumption in favor of release unless there are no conditions that assure the person will come back for trial or assure the safety of the community. in this case there is a rare list of just a few statutes that has the presumption going the other way. the judge is to presume detention when and if they are charged with very serious crimes

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jeffrey epstein also has connections to bill clinton. a clinton spokesman said the former president took a total of four trips on epstein's private jet in 2002 and 2003 including stops in connection with the clinton foundation. clinton knows nothing about epstein's terrible crimes. >>> a plan to let you see drug prices was nixed. it ruled the agency overstepped its authority. the judge says the responsibility of driving down drug prices lies with congress. putting prices in ads was the center piece of the white house effort to bring down drug prices but experts say it could be misleading because most people with insurance pay far less. >>> joe biden says he opposes the medicare for all plan being promoted by many of his democratic rivals. the former vice president was a top polling democrat who does not support a single payer health insurance. that kind of system could not could exist with the affordable care act. >> i think they think they have the right answer but, look, starting over would be, i think, a sin. if you are satisfied with

jeffrey epstein was a terrific guy. from "the new york times," donald trump once said and now he's not a fan. that story, i believe, chronicled a party where the women were flown in and only two men in attendance -- 28 women, i think, jeffrey epstein and donald trump in "vanity fair," him, epstein and 28 girls. florida man drops the dime on trump. >> when the president stands on the white house lawn and said he barely knew jeffrey epstein, that's not supported by the facts. they knew each other well from 2002 until 2011. he traveled on his jet at least once. was seen at a member of mar-a-lago in name or substance but he was there all the time and the president wanted him to be there. i spent about two years, a lot of time with trump in the mid-2000s, and he routinely talked about jeffrey epstein as someone he admired, he knefelt y were in sync. >> what did he admire about limb? >> that he was able to pursue women whenever he wanted to, he was able to spend money the way he wanted to. he didn't care about the law or civi

jeffrey epstein doesn't seem to have offered anything. >> it's very hard to understand and let's look at the current indictment, which also says that epstein acted with others known and unknown. that means -- and let's just look at the watergate indictment which also indicted all of the president's top men with others known and unknown. and then later in a bill of particulars as part of discovery we released the names of others that were known, including president nixon. so i don't know who those others known and unknown are, but we do know that at least one girl was taken from mar-a-lago where jeffrey epstein met her and so we don't know who those others are. we do know that some were employees of his who are named as employee one, two and three, but it's going to take some discovery and some trial to find out more of the details. but this is inexplicable, it's terrible. we need to protect young girls and the fact that he is now in charge of supervising human trafficking is really unconscionable and justifies the calls now for his resigning. >> bill barr has said he will recuse himse

of jeffrey epstein. and she was able to track that down through dogged reporting, following breadcrumbs and eventually getting four to talk on the record to us. and, you know, who knows what has transpired in the ten years where basically after this sweetheart deal took place and now. >> the m.o. that's described in the four on the record conversations that happened, julie brown and folks can look at that at "miami herald," fit squarely with the pattern that is established here. what does it say to you that doj is now doing -- taking another run at this? >> well, what's happened here is doj and all the attention that this case has gotten in the past few years, and credit definitely goes to the press, credit goes to the victims, credit goes to the victims' lawyers for keeping this alive. i think when judge mara came down with that decision in february and said the miami u.s. attorney's office violated the law and did not give the victims the sufficient notice that they are required by law to give them abo

he has helped lead the paper's coverage of jeffrey epstein. casey frank, welcome to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. can you talk about the significance of the indictment unsealed in the charges against epstein yesterday? and then go back to what has caused this all to unfold. clearly, your investigation, the reporting of julie brown. >> the significance i i believes the victims are finally being heard after years of being ignonored and disregarded, in fact, abused notot only by mr. epstein bubut also many of them felt abused by the justice system in the state of florida. the u.s. attorney's office. how this came about is the direct result of two dogged journalist, julie brown and emily show. julie, for years, was involved in exposing some of the abuses in the florida prison system. she zeroed in particular on one inson for female inmates lowell, florida. it came to her attention that many of the women in that prison were there because they had been trafficked over the years and the subject was of great interest to her. she began to research the topic of human traffic

donald trump and jeffrey epstein.r the past few weeks, pictures emerged of donald trump and jeffrey epstein hanging out at mar-a-lago. here's them in 1997. here's them in the year 2000. in this later photo, donald trump is alongside melania, who was his girlfriend at the time and would become his wife and a british socialize who stands accused of having recruited the underage girls who were groomed to have sex with epstein. she denied wrongdoing. then the profile from jeffrey epstein in 2002 in which donald trump talks about what great pals they are and how great jeffrey epstein is as a buddy. i have known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. a lot of fun to be with. he likes beautiful women as much as i do and many are on the younger side. no doubt about it, jeffrey enjoys his social life. golf magazine recounted the time that epstein showed up late for a ride on his plane. a rolodex of his contacts shows no fewer than 15 ways to get in contact with donald trump. 15 different numbers for trump and people who worked for t

spot the underage girls were initially recruited to provide jeffrey epstein with massages, and often did so new to, or partially nude. the is massages became increasingly sexual in nature.>> the indictment said sexually he sexually exported minors as young as 14 in his homes in york and florida. from at least 2002 to 2005 he recruited dozens of girls to engage in sex acts and gave them hundreds of dollars off cash. over the weekend federal agents arrested the hedge fund manager after he returned from paris and rated his mansion in new york. jeffrey epstein is associated with powerful people including former president bill clinton and donald trump when he was a private citizen. back in 2002, mr. trump told new york magazine, i have known jeff for 15 years. a terrific guy, and that he likes beautiful women as much as i do. and many of them are on the younger side. this is the second time federal prosecutors have gone after jeffrey epstein, back in 2008, there was outrage after federal prosecutors stop a plea deal without consulting his victims. >> they deserve their day in court. we ar

and this is really the president trying to put space between him and jeffrey epstein. but of course, as tom said, there are these new charges about epstein witness tampering. there are probably going to be more charges coming. and president trump was a very close friend of epstein. with acosta out, this is something that president trump is going to continue to be asked about. >> john, that seems to be the key here. the president, if you accept their version of events here, and acosta got the idea himself, called up the president and i want to resign, the president could have said no, you don't need to, i refuse the resignation. at the very least he didn't put up much of a fight. politically there was no tenable way to go forward with acosta in that position? >> it would have been stupid for him to argue that acosta should stay, like the obviously clean break is a way to distance himself from the story and to make sure the administration isn't asked daily about why isn't acosta resigning yet. >> is there anything acosta realistically could have done or said in? anything

jeffrey epstein also has connections to another president, bill clinton. clinton spokesman said the former president took a total of four trips on epstein's private jet in 2002 and three including stopts in connection with the work of the clinton foundation. clinton knows nothing about epstein's terrible crimes. >>> a plan to let you see drug prices on tv ads nixed by a federal judge. the judge of washington, d.c., vacated the health and human services measure. the judge said responsibility of driving down drug prices lies with congress. putting prices in ads was essential to bring down prices. experts say it could be misleading since most people with insurance pay far less. >>> joe biden says he opposes the medicare for all plan being promoted by men many of his democratic rivals. he is the only one who does not support some form of single payer health insurance. biden said that could not could-exist with the affordable care act. >> i think they think they have the right answer. look, starting over would be i think a sin. they are saying if you are satisfi

lorid sexual allegations against investment banker jeffrey epstein. new york prosecutors looking for more. >> if you believe you are a victim of this man jeffrey epstein or you have evidence or information leading to the conflict alleged in the indictment unsealed today we want to hear from you. >> reporter: the allegations over four years, epstein lured underage women and some as young as 14 years old to massage him and -- and engage in sexual acts in his florida and new york homes. epstein has pleaded not guilty to the charges. epstein arrested saturday on his private jet upon returning from paris. shortly after investigators forced their way into his manhattan mansion. in addition to finding hundreds, possibly thousands of photos of nude and partially nude young women, some of them locked in a safe, investigators found, quote, compact disks are hand written labels including the following ysh young name but name and miscellaneous nudes one and girl picks nude. >> the alleged behavior shocked the conscious. >> reporter: epstein already a registered s

the victims of jeffrey epstein and the trump cabinet official accused of betraying them in the face of epstein's high-powered legal defense team are where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. with us on set in washington, axios national political reporter jonathan swan, national political reporter for "the washington post," robert acosta is here, editor and chief of the bulwark, charlie sykes. we're also joined by former u.s. attorney joyce vance and "the new york times" white house correspondent annie karni. joyce vance, take me through what i understood alex acosta to be trying to say, which is the media didn't report this accurately, that somehow 2008 was an era these crimes were not, i don't know, prosecuted as forcefully as they are now? is that what he was trying to say and is that remotely true? chuck rosenberg, friend of this show and all of ours says not so. >> i agree with chuck pretty firmly. federal prosecutors obligation to protect child victims wasn't any different in 2007 and 2008 than it is today. i'm sorry if acosta felt like the case would h

stepping up to defend his labor secretary who is is facing calls to resign over his handling of the jeffrey epstein case. president said secretary alex acosta is doing a fantastic job. mr. trump also tried to distance himself from epstein in the oval office earlier today after once describing him alz a terrific guy. >> thank you very much -- >> reporter: tonight president trump appears to be standing by his embattled labor secretary alex acosta. at least for now. >> i can tell you that for two and a half years he's been just an excellent secretary of labor. he's done a fantastic job. >> reporter: the president appeared to diminish acosta's role as a federal prosecutor in 2008 plea agreement for jeffrey epstein who is facing new charges of running a child sex ring in florida that includes accusations of abusing teenage girls. >> i do hear there were a lot of people involved in that decision, not just him. i can only say this, from what i know and what i do know is that he's been a great -- really

nico of course, at the center of all this is accused sexual predator, trafficker, jeffrey epstein facing new charges in the southern district of new york. epstein was an acquaintance of president trump back in early 2002. president trump told the new york magazine that he thought epstein was a terrific guy, but last week the president said that he -- or, earlier this week, rather -- the president said he had a falling out with jeffrey epstein. there were court papers filed back in 2011, an attorney named bradley edwards, in palm beach county, representing some of the victims who alleged in this court filing that president trump through jeffrey epstein out of the mar-a-lago club because he sexually assaulted a female employee there. the president would not say why he had the falling out with jeffrey epstein, but as he was leaving on the helicopter this morning, just before he got on, the president did confirm that he in fact through jeffrey epstein out of the mar-a-lago club. something that james patterson, the noted author, told our dana perino on wednesday afternoon. here's the presiden

when it comes to jeffrey epstein, call that though the president has denied it vehemently, his attorneys have as well, the epstein matter touches donald trump in a way roy moore never did. donald trump was named in one of the allegations against jeffrey epstein back in a civil complaint in 2016, something that trump can't vehemently deny. but nonetheless, it is his social circle and donald trump needs to get away from this as quickly as he can. and cukudos to the journalists staying on top of it. >> let's bring in tom winter here. let's talk a little bit about this case that seems to have brought all of this to a head right now. the jeffrey epstein case and acosta's handling of it back in 2008 when he was prosecutor there in southern florida. >> well, i mean, i think, you know, we got here today for a couple reasons, for the journalistic efforts of the miami herald. certainly we got here for another reason, because in february the judge who had been overseeing a lot of these six cases, the judge in the southern district of florida in the miami federal court essentially said, hey, you guy

which gave multi-millionaire jeffrey epstein a light sentence for sex crimes involving underage girls. acosta said his office stepped in when state prosecutors were ready to let epstein walk. epstein faces new federal charges for allegedly running a sex trafficking ring and abusing minors. sources say president trump told acosta to step forward amid a drum beat of calls for his resignation. and house democrats are scrambling to get ready for the testimony of robert mueller. they're trying to make the most of limited time but some are already cautioning against expecting too much from the hearings. the testimony is seen as a make or break moment for democrats pushing for an impeachment inquiry. i'll speak with senator james langford of the senate homeland security committee. and our correspondents and analysts will have full coverage of the day's top stories. but let's begin with the breaking news. our chief white house constituent jim acosta standing by. the president's embattled labor secretary is defending his actions as a u.s. attorney a decade ago. >> reporter: in an update, so fa

the victims who didn't get justice because of the sweetheart deal that secretary acosta with jeffrey epsteinhis confirmation hearing when you asked acosta about the plea deal, he responded that it was a broadly held decision and the u.s. attorney's office and that a plea sending epstein to jail and mandating that he register as a sex offender, that is a good thing. you obviously disagree. why do you think that wasn't the best deal that the u.s. attorney's office could get? >> well, even at the time, jake, his answers didn't add up because he was suggesting on the one hand it was a good deal but on the other hand, well, yeah, there were pieces i didn't like or there were pieces that i didn't know that much about. three things that happened since that confirmation hearing, and i voted against secretary acosta for that reason but three things that have happened since that shine a light on this. number one, the "miami herald" did an amazing job after they saw the hearing and answers, they dug back into the circumstances of the plea and they -- i think they demonstrated that it was a sleazy deal.

get started today at customink.com. >> dana: jeffrey epstein just pleaded not guilty to a next sex trafficking there has been speculation. the u.s. attorney jeffrey berman address that at a news conference a short while ago. >> there's been a lot of speculation and the media about individuals affiliated or associated with jeffrey epstein. as you know justice department guidelines prohibit us from talking about such individuals and so i want to let you know that if that question comes up about any individual, my answer will be no comment. >> dana: joining us now, the cofounder of white-collar advice and federal prison consultant. good to have you here. it doesn't look like jeffrey epstein will be granted bail. he will be held -- his next hearings on thursday. what can he expect? >> it's good to be back with you. you will be in free trial detention 24 hours a day in a special housing unit. there is very little special about it come he sits there with nothing but his thoughts and a concrete bunker thinking about how he can position himself. >> dana: i think we have another sound bite from that u.

defending labor secretary alex acosta, over his handling the plea deal for billionaire financier jeffrey epstein, when acosta was a u.s. attorney in miami. select the defense attorneys in the case exit try to get alex a reload because they thought he was an aggressive prosecutor. >> reporter: epstein was given a 13 month sentence allowed him to leave jail and go to work six days a week. acosta also made an agreement with epstein's attorneys to keep the plea deal a secret from the victims in the case. something a florida judge ruled that the this year was illegal.>> i reached out to mr. acosta numerous time saying, just sit down with us and explain why. >> reporter: many lawmakers are asking the same question, and they want a justice disbarred justice department probe launched examining the jeffrey epstein plea deal to be made public. epstein's attorney in the agreement defended the plea deal thing the federal government did not have enough evidence to prosecute his client. >> they got him to be a registered sex offender, to pay vast amounts of money to all of the woman, and get him to plead and

it's exactly what all jeffrey epstein's victims have been it's exactly what all jeffrey epstein's victims saying all this time -- >> what do you think changed this time? as we were talking about the indictment today, it is a litany of all the things that i've heard before. the only difference is who will stand behind the allegations. >> so i think the culture has changed. and i think very importantly the light that "the miami herald" shed on the victims stories that were incredibly poignant and credible. back in 2008 alan desk witch told alexander acosta he was going to make mincemeat of these women. well, i think "the miami herald" showed they were credible and the stories were awful. and what happened is congress reacted. ben sasse, the republican from nebraska should get a big shoutout for teaming up with the democrats for saying wait a minute, how did this happen? they went back -- >> where was that back in 2008? >> that's the point. >> who made the phone calls? it wasn't the trump administration. this was a long time ago. this was in clinton land. where did this happen? he was friend

the new federal charges against finance tycoon jeffrey epstein raise giant questions about why acosta led him off easy a decade ago. he brokered a sweetheart deal in secret and broke the law by not telling epstein's victims. that deal looks ghastly when measured against what new york prosecutors detailed yesterday. epstein, the southern district of new york says, ran a sex trafficking ring, repeatedly forced underage girls to have sex with him and paid his victims to recruit more girls for him to abuse. epstein is politically connected on both sides. his high profile guarantees his trial will get banner coverage. that means new questions about why acosta chose not to take epstein to trial a decade ago and uncomfortable exchanges like this one on the white house driveway with presidential counselor, kellyanne conway. >> it's classic her and her democratic party to not focus on the perpetrator at hand and instead focus on the member of the trump administration. they're so obsessed with this president that they immediately go to alex acosta rather than jeffrey epstein. why are you talkin

i mean, jeffrey epstein sold himself to the wealthy. he deliberately cultivated this image of someone a bit of an eccentr eccentric. he sold himself as someone with a fantastic financial resume, which was not in fact the truth. you know, if you actually looked in the markets, you would find no footprint of him. he wasn't trained as a lawyer. so he had -- he wasn't qualified to run people's trusts and estates, which is what he claimed to be doing. >> you know, jill, this is the kind of character that seems made for the bad values of "vanity fair," a magazine that seems to deal with the very rich and awful. unfortunately, vicky, they talk about people that are really bad people, but they had a lot of money therefore worthy of our attention. what do you think is going on in white house? i heard the approximately rather warily say -- he never takes a good look at anything. he said we're going give a really good look at this guy. it sounds to me like he is zaentzing himself. >> very much. >> so acosta let him off basically. >> first of all,

with jeffrey epstein, a guy with a lot of influence.h a lot of money, a guy with a lot of bipartisan connections. judy? >> whether you are buying your way into college or buying your way out of jail, the notion that there are two sets of laws in this country and punishments, one for the ordinary people and one for the rich and well-connected, is something that really does resonate in politics. and i think about the fact the president was so cautious and said we are looking into it, that we didn't know epstein, tes a great deal but i want comfortably must be with whatever happened during that sentencing. suppression of witness testimony what appears to be sweetheart deal is very troubling on its surface. that's why i don't think you see a lot of republicans rallying around mr. acosta. >> harris: as you watch the president, he chose his words carefully, particularly toward the end. your thoughts? >> i think everybody that has been in politics for a long time, everybody who has been in new york society for a long time, might be looking ove

everyone knows jeffrey epstein is rich, he has lots of homes all over the world, in the virgin islands, in paris. how did he get all of that money? >> that's always been the mystery. you have to republic, epstein starts out as a -- from brooklyn, working class brooklyn. and he makes his way through dalton under suspicious circumstances without a degree. from there, he goes to bear stearns and he makes limited partner in about four years, which is a little bit odd. and there he has some white collar crime issues with an insider trading deal that he was part of. from there, he blew through a bunch of money in the early 80s and he was borrowing jackets for the concord from people to appear very wealthy to his clients and he starts his own company. one is called intercontinental asset group. the next one was j. epstein & company. he takes about half a million dollars from a pinball ceo and the guy asked for it back years later and epstein gives him a $10,000 check and says that was for a horse i sold him and he sued over it. from there, epstein gets involved in a ponzi scheme called towers

jeffrey epstein is going to be staying in jail. we were waiting to find out whether he would be locked up, remain in jail, or released on bail. it sounds like we just got word nbc stephanie gosk live outside that courthouse in manhattan. and nowadays a former corruption and fraud prosecutor for the u.s. attorney office, southern district of new york, stephanie, i'll start with you on this breaking news. jum didn't seem to spend a great deal of time on deciding whether to lock him up or keep him locked up i should say. >> reporter: well, that would be no time at all this morning. the hearing began and he immediately just said it, that there -- that bail has been denied and jeffrey epstein will stay in prison. so just to understand that and put it into context, federal prosecutors have had been arguing that he not get bail. they said he was a flight risk, a risk to the public. his defense team had put forward a number of stipulations where he could get bail and wear an ankle monitoring system, also stay in his home, his $77 million m

growing calls for trump's embattled hand picked labor secretary to resign for not prosecuting jeffrey epstein. epstein is accused of raping younger girls. the president sending alex acosta before cameras for an hour to defend himself. and acosta performed a audience everyone. he was unapologyist fiercely defending his role in securing the sweetheart deal in 2008 for epstein. >> a state grand jury brought that single, completely unacceptable charge. a state official allowed epstein to self-surrender. i wanted to help him. that is why we intervened. we did what we did because we wanted to see epstein go to jail. he needed to go to jail. there was value to getting a guilty plea. you can always look at a play after the fact and say should it have been the safe play or gone for the big score? >> well acosta certainly went for the safe play. despite authorities having evidence that epstein skauly abused dozens of teenage girls. the deal hammered out resulted in epstein serving 13 months in a county jail. allowed to leave every day six day as week for 12 hours a day. if epstein had been convicted he

nbc has uncovered archive footage of donald trump and jeffrey epstein partying together at mar-a-lago back in 1992. here is how mika brzezinski described the interaction on "morning joe." >> later in the footage, trump is seen talking to epstein and another man as women are dancing in front of them. trump alternates between dancing and pointing out women to epstein and the other man and telling epstein about the cameras. though exactly what they say is difficult to understand as they discuss the women and their appearances, trump gestures to one and appears to say to one, look at her back there. she's hot. and then trump says something into epstein's ear that makes him double over with laughter. >> footage was shot by nbc for profile on faith daniels' talk show a closer look. trump's behavior in the rest of the talk show hasn't aged well. >> i saw you at the celebrity chef dinner here in new york. >> and what a kiss. >> you kissed me on the lips in front of the paparazzi and i said that will cost you. i'm booking you on the show. true story, correct? >> was so good and open and nice.

so who is jeffrey epstein? of money in the '70s and '80s working in finance, that paid his entrance fee into exclusive social services and political ones. donald trump back in 2002 called epstein a terrific guy. and records show former president bill clinton flew on one of epstein's planes more than once.

she was working at the mar a lago club in florida when she was recruited to be a masseuse to jeffrey epstein to complicate matters for trump, the epstein revelations keep coming the "miami herald" reported at least a dozen new victims have come forward to claim they were sexually abused by epstein following his arrest saturday in new jersey now tonight, the new york times is reporting that epstein was accused of witness tampering on friday by federal prosecutors who said he wired $350,000 to two people who were potential witnesses against him. he sent the money to the potential witnesses in november and december shortly after the "miami herald" published a deal that was reached to avoid federal prosecution, prosecutors said more details from epstein accuser jennifer araoz who said he raped her when she was 15 years old. she described in an exclusive interview with savannah guthrie. >> did you ever think why did this older man want to hang out with a 14-year-old >> i did, i but i didn't overanalyze it i did and i didn't care. i just knew i was young and i needed the money and i thought maybe