>> this week on political capital, jeffrey goldberg on his interview with barack obama and the latest on ukraine. julianna goldman talks obama's budget. and paul ryan's plan. >> we start the program with governor rick perry of texas. thank you for joining us. you have said that you're going to hold off on whether you will run again for president until the end of 2014. the conventional wisdom has been another texan, ted cruz, has stolen your thunder. >> i hope ted and i are working towards the same goal, which is to make washington less consequential in people's lives and devolve the power back to the state. i believe with all my heart that the state is the laboratory of innovation. >> you think being a governor puts you in a better position for senator cruz? >> i think that is a question better for other people to answer. being the governor of texas, you have to do with issues. you don't have the opportunity to push them off or have a cr or what have you. we have a balance budget but a minute. i think that is a good thing. i was the u.s. had that restriction. >> he has not had that op

we come back, we'll talk to jeffrey goldberg about his interview. with president obama. ♪ >> unease continues in ukraine >> unease continues in ukraine as president obama threatens more sanctions on russia. for that, we bring in jeffrey goldberg. but start with your exclusive interview with barack obama. this is the fifth or sixth in a continuum. what changes have you seen in him, either in substance or style? >> in foreign policy, the world, basically, i think that he has become much more confident and fluid in the way he talks about his issues. i think he feels he has mastered the subject. when he was in the senate in 2007, it was more talking point-ish at that stage. he feels he has a real mastery and he feels as if he has a long view that he is hovering above. >> that leads me to what he was trying to achieve. you are the most distinguished columnist on this subject. obama was clearly trying to send a message to benjamin netanyahu. did he succeed? >> there is a fantastic passive-aggressive thing going on. kerry has been trying for months -- his

>> this week on political capital, jeffrey goldberg on his interview with barack obama and the latest on ukraine. julianna goldman talks obama's budget. and paul ryan's plan. >> we start the program with governor rick perry of texas. thank you for joining us. you have a commode to us reception when you spoke your this morning. you have said that you're going to hold off on whether you will run again for president until the end of 2014. the conventional wisdom has been another texan, ted cruz, has stolen your thunder. hope ted and i are working towards the same goal, which is to make washington less consequential in people's lives evolve the power back to the state. i believe with all my heart that the state is the laboratory of innovation. >> you think being in a -- being a governor for two and a better position for senator cruz? >> i think that is a question better for other people to answer. being the governor of texas, you have to do with issues. you don't have the opportunity to push them off or have a cr or what have you. a have a balance budget but minute. i think that is a good

jeffrey goldberg is a columnist, conducted the interview. he's here. thanks very much, jeffrey.sident was pretty blunt in his comments and coming on the eve of his meeting with netanyahu. what was his motivation right now? why would he do that? >> i think he wants to shape the conversation, remind the prime minister, that it's on his shoulders. i gave the president a couple of opportunities to talk about the palestinian leader, mahmud abbas, and he turned it back toward the prime minister each time so that the palestinian leader is the most moderate leader that the palestinians may ever have. and so it's really up to the prime minister to take advantage of this situation. and that time is running out. like, there is not going to be these endless opportunities for peacemaking. so he was sort of setting the stage in a candid way. >> and he's got a so-called framework plan that kerry has put together with his advisers, that he thinks is in he is real's own best interest and will try to sell it to the prime minister. >> exactly. it will be interesting to see how much prime minister

. >> charlie: and we conclude this evening with a conversation with jeffrey goldberg of bloomberg view who just had a conversation with president obama about israeli palestinian issues. >> obama's ideas have shifted to a remarkable degree, not about his politics but his staying power and how essential he is to this process. so what he was going doing in the interview were two things. he was boxing him in saying, you know, time is up, you don't like to move, i know that but you've got to move. but he was also bucking him up in a way. >> charlie: robert gates, mikheil saakashvili and jeffrey goldberg when we continue. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> charlie: the continuing ongoing coverage of the crisis in ukraine, the situation in crimea remains tense with warning shots fired earlier today by russian soldiers. this morning russian president vladimir putin gave his first press conference since the conflict began. he said he saw no reason for forces to intervene in eastern ukraine at the moment but did not close the d

the man who sat down with the president, jeffrey goldberg. mr. goldberg, how are you, sir?> good. >> so it's interesting here. the relationship between the president and netanyahu, intellectually the two of them have enormous respect for each other. but there is just not a lot of personal chemistry. and we know if netanyahu is looking for a way to feel offended, he might look at this interview and decide he feels offended. >> yeah. i don't think the white house thought that he would necessarily be offended, because this is -- >> because he's never been offended before? >> it is a at ttumultuous relationship, i have to say. it's gone years and it's been tumultuous. these are things that president obama has communicated to him in private. >> he has said it before. [ overlapping speakers ] >> -- in a concentrated dose. you know, yeah, he's trying to help carry, the president is, in the sense of saying, all right, guys, this is it. >> i have to raetd you this one quote here, where it comes -- you feel like as if obama is frustrated with netanyahu, quotes his mother, right, whic

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. ♪ >> this week on political capital, jeffrey goldberg on his interview with barack obama and the lateste. julianna goldman talks obama's budget. and paul ryan's plan. >> we start the program with governor rick perry of texas. thank you for joining us. you have a commode to us reception when you spoke your this morning. you have said that you're going to hold off on whether you will run again for president until the end of 2014. the conventional wisdom has been another texan, ted cruz, has stolen your thunder.

jeffrey goldberg writes for bloomberg view. peter baker for the "new york times." also cbs state department margaret brennan, what's the latest? >> secretary kerry spoke yesterday, day before with the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov. and that is where the bulk of the diplomatic efforts are being focused just talk to each other whether it's directly or through an intermediary. they believe that their chipping away but there's really been no change to the russians position in terms to agreeing to sit down. we're in paris on thursday and on wednesday with secretary kerry. sergey lavrov pretended not to knowhow the ukrainian foreign minister was. he arrived in the city. nothing is changing there, facts on the ground have not changed we've seep international monitors being blocked from going in -- >> rose: that was secretary baker was trying to make. there is also crimea right now. bob gates, former secretary of defense said crimea is lost. how does administration see crimea? >> well, their first priority since this happened is try to prevent it from spreading. t

david remini, leon -- [inaudible] tom friedman and jeff ofly goldberg -- jeffrey goldberg. so he he was referring to these kind of powerful journalists who had played such a great role in celebrating him. and it was a frank description of the degree to which people who are, have a very positive view of zionism and of israel and in jeffrey goldberg's case are really right-wing zionists, the degree to which they play a central role still in our media. the other piece in hadassah magazine was one in which they interviewed jodi r everything dorn of the new york times, and she talked about her jewish background. and she said she had gone to israel first with united synagogue youth as a girl and that she has come to this issue with great knowledge of the american jewish experience and the israel, the jewish israeli side of the conflict. which is really, i mean, it's a tragic kind of admission from my standpoint because -- especially as it's borne out by her coverage. because this is not someone who has extended herself to the other narrative. she knows this narrative, she's sayin

our political director chuck todd, jeffrey goldberg from the atlantic magazine and stephanie rawlings-blakee mayor of baltimore, tina brown, founder of the women in the world foundation, and nationally syndicated columnist from the "washington post" kathleen parker. welcome to all of you. this is a conversation about obama's leadership, pure and simple. this is a major test for whether the rest of the world, particularly bad actors, take him seriously when he says to not do something. chuck todd, "the washington post" editorial that i've been looking at this morning says this. it took vladimir putin less than a day to trample on president obama's warning against a russian military intervention in ukraine. the u.s. now faces a naked act of armed aggression in the center of europe by a russian regime that is signaling its intent to the steam roller this u.s. president and his allies, mr. obama must demonstrate that can't be done. and he said don't do it for ten days. >> this is not the first time with putin. he actions, obama warns. putin acts, obama warns. this is a pattern he can't afford t

jeffrey goldberg sat down with president obama. benjamin netanyahu visits the white house.t a moment to lose. first, the news of the morning. author of the book prisoners and joins us from washington after the exclusive interview with president obama. many ways to go here. let me start with the ukraine. what is your most careful observation in the cacophony of this monday morning? >> my most careful observation will cost you extra. west is not just president obama's problem. the west is struggling to gearing out what to do. quite one thing when seriousness behaves, and even when small, nations misbehaved. difficult to bring them into a line. when russia does something they saidlike this, around the white house and other offices of power and look for ways to give a reasonable response when you know this is a huge deal. huge deal to send the secretary of state 2:00 p.m.. -- to the ukraine. >> i want to come right back to jeffrey goldberg. the idea of a new u.s. foreign-policy. foreign-policy? >> of passive, reactive one. when you contrast the role compared to the collapse of

this is jeffrey goldberg. you know his work. he gets these interviews all the time. you read those.mir, he met secretly in kuwait last week with foreign ministers from five neighboring countries, including saudi tobia, bahrain, according two people with direct knowledge of this meeting. brother. your he had a simple message for the a mere. cut it out. we know what you are doing. , bahrain, anda the united emirates withdrew their ambassadors a couple of weeks ago. because, there was an agreement that was signed by all the countries, and not in secret. it was a public agreement on security. there'll be no interference in each other's affairs. there'll be coordination between the countries when it comes to issues of security and national interests. arabia,iew of saudi they have not lived up to that agreement. hence, the public expression was by withdrawing the ambassadors. i can tell you, there was no secret meeting between the dcc members. all of the meetings that have taken place have been in public. >> they did me. >> of course. >> and they told him to cut it out. your meddling too

joining me from washington is jeffrey goldberg.interviewed president obama ahead of his meeting with benjamin netanyahu. i'm pleased to have them back on this program. why do so many of us who want to interview president obama, he only wants to talk to you? >> i have a nicer tie. i don't know charlie. [laughter] >> i think it says something about his mind. these are not short interviews. he takes his time and he feels like he has a chance to talk to you. my guess is there's some sense of how he sees the nuance of israeli-palestinian issues and his own genuine concerns. >> i have been interviewing him for a while on this subject. since he was in the senate. the thing that is remarkable about him to me is the level of detail he masters. even in this period, where he has not been as engaged, not like the secretary of state. he has this deep in his bones. i think you are right. there is a deep concern. you can see him as being anti-israel and just trying to eat it up. or you can see that he is very concerned about the course and direct

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. ♪ >> this week on "political capital," jeffrey goldberg on his interview with barack obama and thekraine. julianna goldman talks obama's budget. and paul ryan's plan. >> we start the program with governor rick perry of texas. thank you for joining us.

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with the president having told bloomberg's jeffrey goldberg, "i believe that if bibi is strong enough that if he decided this was the right thing to do for israel, that he could do it. if he does not believe that a peace deal with the palestinians is the right thing to do for israel, then he needs to articulate an alternative approach. and as i said before, it's hard to come up with one that's plausible." palestinian president mahmoud abbas gets his turn two weeks from now. the goal -- lock in a two-state solution to the centuries-old struggle, and do it by the end of april. if that sounds like a tall order, that's because it is. the president has said the window is closing for a viable two-state solution and even puts the odds of success at less than 50%. but secretary of state john kerry is digging in, saying failure is not an option. kerry speaks tonight at the annual policy conference of the american/israel public affairs committee, apac, which is going on all day. now, you may remember, apac recently took on the white house and lost, bidding against a diplomatic pact toward a lon

doesn't want to go too far. >> i'm sorry, i'm just very moderate, bill. >> that's right. >> jeffrey goldbergs, jeffrey. >> good conversation. >>> coming up next on "morning joe," senator john mccain joins us live. later, the zen of russell simmons. he is here to explain the surprising secret behind his success. you're watching "morning joe." we will be right back. [ male announcer ] at his current pace, bob will retire when he's 153, which would be fine if bob were a vampire. but he's not. ♪ he's an architect with two kids and a mortgage. luckily, he found someone who gave him a fresh perspective on his portfolio. and with some planning and effort, hopefully bob can retire at a more appropriate age. it's not rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> welcome back to "morning joe." john kerry has just landed in kiev. obviously, the secretary of state getting on the ground and trying do what he can along with the government to have a response. let's -- he is there to show the support for the new government and let's bring in right now from california, former u.s. ambassado

he made an exclusive interview with jeffrey goldberg. our middle east editor elliott has more.tntial pressure pressure on things. quite right. normally, president obama has peace talksegwork to his secretary of state, and john kerry. now that we are the ease of this meeting between obama and netanyahu, the self-imposed deadline that the john kerry put on a framework between israel uponalestinians is almost us. he said his hope and expectation is despite the incredible political challenge to both prime minister netanyahu, they can reach past their differences and arrive at a framework that can move us to peace. and he said if not now, when? how does this get resolved. was, i willreaction not give into pressure but he did say he want to and he has said that he does inc. a peace agreement can be reached thanks to john kerry diplomacy. obama also talked about why he did not go to war in syria. their -- there? obama was condemned and criticized in many quarters for not acting on the syria read a line of using chemical weapons. his response is first of all, chemical weapons belonging

if you look at the comments made to jeffrey goldberg, it doesn't seem like there is a meeting of mind? >> we are working with israel and you saw what the president and secretary kerry said about the opportunity to move forward and the necessity of the framework of negotiations and that effort continues. yes, mark? >> putin said he doesn't think the use of force is necessary in crimea. what would you say? >> i would say we are monitoring the situation there and in the rest of ukraine closely. we stand by our support for ukraine's territorial integry and sovereignty. we support the ukraine government that is responsible in the handling of the events of in the last few days. secretary kerry announced a package we want to work on so ukraine and government can deal with their economic challenges. >> putin is denying the forces in crimea are russian. what is the whitehouse response to that? does the president believe he is putin is being honest? >> the president is very open ability officials when we deal with them including putin. we workwer together and achieve national security aims. whe

even passionate defenders of israel like jeffrey goldberg had written proudly about clout. we provoked an extreme reaction, partly because we provided more depails about the lobby's influence, and partly because we were both rather middle of the road boring figures from well-known universities, partly because we were not left wing, we were not muslim, not arab, not married to palestinians, and partly because it was obvious in the wake of 9/11 and the iraq war that something had gone badly awry in u.s. middle east policy. now issue turning to what we didn't say. the rather hysterical reaction to the work confirmed our point. it was difficult to have a calm reasoned fact based discussion on the topic because most of our critics could not fine fault with our logic or fault with our elfed. they accused us of saying things we have not said, and in most cases, things that were the exact opposite of what we had written. i'm not going to bore you with false accusations, but just for the record, here's what we did not say. we did not say that the israel lobby was a conspiracy part o

i've heard john kerry make those same points, and jeffrey goldbe goldberg, who was here on our programay when he interviewed the president of the united states about the peace process yesterday, he tweeted that netanyahu was selling the benefits of peace, hopeful move. are you hopeful? >> i am hopeful and i applaud the speech. his reference to a moral divide, you can be on the right side or the wrong side i thought was extremely powerful, and no one is missing, certainly i'm not missing this con gruence of interest on iran between israel and her sunni neighbors. and finally the possibilities, and netanyahu said this, of a regional economic powerhouse leveraging israel's strengths and the strengths of many arab countries is becoming something people are willing to entertain. there's been a saudi peace initiative on the table, you know this, wolf, for 12 years. no one has really moved toward it. but this was the first speech that netanyahu has given that gave me real hope. you can hear some of president obama's words in his words but you can really feel the influence of john kerry, whom

journalist jeffrey goldberg described it this way, "the apocalypse could come even soonerrer for kiribati if vilt storms of the sort that recently destroyed the philippines strike its islands. for all of these reasons, the 103,000 citizens of kiribati may conge become refugees. perhaps the first mass movement of people fleeing the consequences of global warming rather than war or famine." almost 6,000 nautical miles away in the indian ocean, the maldives face a similar fate. the island sphait state of nearly 400,000 faces risks of sea level rise and extreme weather events that threaten to inundate its communities with as well as of storm surge that leave families and their loved ones literally under water. in 2009 leaders in the maldives staged a dramatic demonstration ahead of the u.n. climate change conference in copenhagen when they held a cabinet meeting on the bottom of the ocean floor to foreshadow their impending fate if the world failed to act in the face of climate change. maldives' president told observers, we're now actually trying to send our message. let the world know what i