and jeffrey goldberg writes for the atlantic and he's also a visiting fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. steve, i want the start with you. article, "are we any safer," and i apologize, but can you boil it down into an answer? >> in only 20 words. >> well, we're along stronger because of the work of the people like fran did and tens of thousands of others and the trillions of dollars we spent. we strengthened our defense, but the nature of the threat has changed and evolved in a way that arguably in many ways makes us less safe. adapting to that environment that steve describeed? >> you'll appreciate, john, what happens is we never adapt fast enough. as you heard from the chairman of the intelligence committee, the threat has metastasized and spread. we have more bad guys in more different places now. that's a significant threat. you add to that the internet and the radicalization that happens over the internet, even very late to that game as a government across two administrations, frankly, and we don't treat the internet as a battle space as we this land, air an

contributes to "the atlantic" and is the author of this month's cover story, "are we any and jeffrey goldberg writes for the atlantic and he's also a visiting fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace. steve, i want the start with you. you worked for a year on this article, "are we any safer," and i apologize, but can you boil it down into an answer? >> in only 20 words. >> well, we're along stronger because of the work of the people like fran did and tens of thousands of others and the trillions of dollars we spent.

he's jeffrey goldberg, this is overheard. (light music) let's be honest, is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? i mean how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa. you could say that he's made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. you know, you saw a problem and over time took it on. let's start with the sizzle before we get to the state.

joining us now, national correspondent for "the atlantic" jeffrey goldberg. the house, why hillary should send her husband to jerusalem is featured in the "atlantic's" fourthcoming issue which will be featured online next week in full. jeffrey you write in part this, bill clinton was a president singly taken by the idea that making peace between palestinians and israelis would be possible. no one has come closer to achieving peace than clinton. if elected, his wife will, like all other presidents of the past four years at some point attempt tasolve the unsolvable conflict. the only living person the antagonists would find to their chagrin impossible to ignore is bill clinton. a signing bill this task could also take care of another potential problem for hillary, a pressing need to get him out of the house. in the united states today, the best person to lead such an effort is the person who has already led such an effort. bill clinton might not succeed in bringing peace. chances are good that he wouldn't, but it would be a crime not to give it one more try. mi

he's jeffrey goldberg, this is overheard. (light music) let's be honest, is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? i mean how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa. you could say that he's made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. you know, you saw a problem and over time took it on. let's start with the sizzle before we get to the state. are you gonna run for president? i think i just got an f from you actually. this is over. (crowd applauding) - [evan] jeff goldberg welcome. - [jeff] thank you. - thank you very much for being here. we're sitting here at the end of march, brussels has just happened, what in the hell is going on with our world? it's impossible to feel good about things. i'm, i just wanna lock myself in my house at the moment and never come out. - you're fairly safe in austin, so don't worry. - is that right, seriously? - i believe so. i think you're, not to be too spokean about this and we'll talk about obama's reacti

i mean the president of the united states said in his interview with jeffrey goldberg of the "new yorkerasically the threat isn't that bad, just this appears on the news so much. if it bleeds it leads. you see consistently whether talking about the original airplane bomber who was called an isolated extremist, talking about the attempted attack in new york city where the pakistani american was described as a lone terrorist. later they had to double back on that, you have seen an intentional i think effort to downplay the threat, particularly as it relates to attacks or attempted attacks with international ties or potentially connected to known terrorist groups. i think that's a problem. i think the administration, others have given americans, some americans a false sense of security. i think it is dangerous. martha: all right. steve, thank you very much. bill: we mentioned hillary clinton is in white plains, new york, before she starts her campaign today. >> this dangerous situation. lives spoken to the governor of minnesota. like all americans my thoughts are with those who were wounded

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my colleague jeffrey goldberg wrote one of the most important articles on one of our cover stories and i found it useful because it began to raise this question was if someone filtered their dashboard priority is and i'm interested in john kerry's frame when you look at a problem out there i'm interested in what you see as the nation's leading diplomats and demand that we have been president of the united states. how do you organize in your mind, taking on these big national security challenges? >> the first thing you need to do is obviously understand and define the interest of the united states of america. our job, my job for the president's job is to protect the nation and to advance our interests and values simultaneously. foreign policy is a combination of interests and values. hopefully they are molded like that but sometimes interests are far greater and you may have tension with the values because of the level of interest were the values may be in the holocaust or rwanda which is also relevant in the debate about syria for the killings and the torture. >> in the values category

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