. >> we continue with jeffrey goldberg, editor and chief. >> this one of the little secrets of much of donald trump's support. it's as -- i think there are a lot of people who voted for him who looked at this administration and do understand analytically that it's dysfunctional. he's not delivering. but that feeling is outweighed by a feeling of just loathing and repull shun for his critics. in other words, there are people who voted for donald trump who quite possibly saw donald trump as the very flawed figure that other people see him as. but they just see the other side as worse. >> and we conclude with author and new yorker david grann his new back is called killers of the flower moon. the osage murders and the birth of the fbi >> i was shocked that i had never read about this in school. it was not part of my history books and when i saw that photograph at the museum where a portion had been cut out because it contained one of the killers, the osage had removed that picture not to forget, but because they can't forget and yet here were so many people including myself who no knowled

jeffrey goldberg joins me to talk about this and his magazine.pleased to have you back at this table. i want to turn to last month's cover about a remarkable story. tell me the story. >> a writer, a filipino american writer, lived with a shameful secret. when his family immigrated to america, they brought with them essentially their family slave. they inherited a slave. kind of a strange indentured servitude in their culture of the philippines. they brought this woman with them. family,n lived with the the mother and alex, this pulitzer prize-winning writer. he inherited her. he freed her but she could not be freed in a way. the story went viral. millions of people have read the story online an imprint. the story is him coming to grips with what his family did to this person, how he could not liberate her even though he tried, and his anxieties about it. thisis the part that takes to a strange and tragic level. alex, who had written for us before, a great writer, filed his story to us, went through one round of editing, and we learned just as we

charlie is traveling and i'm jeffrey goldberg of "the atlantic."n this evening with politics. president trump's approval numbers continue to drift downward even among the previous loyal base that won him the election. according to a new cbs news poll, only 36% of americans support his performance so far. the trump administration continues to endure heightened scrutiny over ties with russia as robert mueller's investigation begins to ramp up. voters have gone to the polls today in georgia's nationally watched special election in the

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jonathan: joining me today from blackrock's rick rieder, alongside him jeffrey rosenberg, and pablo goldberg. gents thank you for having me in , your house. >> thank you for having us. jonathan: let's begin with the federal reserve. hawkish bias from the chairman. rick: i think it definitely was hawkish tilt do it. quite frkli think it was the , best press conference from chair yellen. she was directed, committed, unwavering and quite frankly there were , questions that were distracting. she laid out the plan. this is our plan and we're sticking to it. quite frankly, some of the short-term data, she rightfully ignored. she thought about the bigger picture. she is focused much more today on financial conditions. and those have gotten easier. she was committed to this is where we are going. jonathan: last year we talked about a fed that did not stick to their forecasts, they had a credibility problem.

with the "washington examiner," julie pace, white house can score a tonic for the paste, and jeffrey goldbergitor for the atlantic. >> we are just in the middle. [laughter] >> bret: julie, you were there. what did you think? >> i think the president does feel vindicated on one front, that's the fact that james comey did tell him three times that he personally was not investigation as it relates to the russian collusion during the election. but obviously there is a lot that is left on the table here, and we are in a situation right now because so many of these conversations were just the president and comey, it's comey's word against trump. you heard trump say he would testify under oath, questions about whether there are a taped hangs over all of this. you have to imagine the only rational exhalation is if he is going to be met with his explanation, that there are either tapes that vindicate him on that front or no tapes exist at all. again, impossible to date that answer. >> bret: you wonder about the p.r. motions here and the specter of tapes after a big hearing where someone is testifying

charlie is traveling and i'm jeffrey goldberg of "the atlantic."e begin this evening with politics. president trump's approval numbers continue to drift downward even among the previous loyal base that won him the election. according to a new cbs news poll, only 36% of americans support his performance so far. the trump administration continues to endure heightened scrutiny over ties with russia as robert mueller's investigation begins to ramp up. voters have gone to the polls today in georgia's nationally watched special election in the vacant house seat. joining me now from washington is shannon pettypiece, a white house correspondent for "bloomberg news." welcome. can we turn right away to one of the president's most recent tweets? i want to read it to you. it refers to the north korea crisis. "while i greatly appreciate the efforts of china to help with north korea, it has not worked out. at least i know china tried!" is there any reaction to this extraordinary tweet? as a foreign-policy person, i have to say, you very rarely see a president wr

joining me is jeffrey goldberg, editor in chief of the atlantic and walter isaac'son, president and ceote who is hosting this conference. thank you so much for having us. >> thank you for coming. >> there has been so much from president trump about fake news, and it's become such a meme for this administration. we wanted to share with you, in one of your previous jobs you were editor in chief of "time" magazine. this is a "time" magazine cover that's apparently up in all the trump properties which is a "time" magazine cover -- >> photoshopped, obviously. >> photoshopped which is -- remember how the president on the second day of his administration was bragging at the cia he's had more "time" covers than tom brady? this is one of those covers where he's bragging about the apprentice but apparently it's totally fake. >> you know, it's really important for people to just think carefully and say i know the difference between fake news and real news, and i know the difference when somebody makes a mistake. cnn made a mistake recently and corrected it. if we start deciding that anything we di

with us to discuss from blackrock, rick rieder, jeffrey rosenberg, and pablo goldberg.ng about the return of volatility. equity, fixed income, the lot, does that make a risky environment? >> i am getting in the habit of disagreeing with your premises. jonathan: you can do that. that is the whole i throw a point. premise. >> your premise is everything is rich. we don't see everything is rich. we are on the fixed income side. on the fixed income side it is not so much about rich or cheap. it is about are you paid for the risk? the issue in next income relative to equities is you have asymmetric downside risk. don't get the upside and you get a lot more downside risk. on equities, valuations change. we think equity valuations are better in some areas outside of the u.s. the key differential is you have upside as similar to the amounts of downside you are taking. in fixed income, you don't get that. and that is part of what you're hearing and terms of the caution. we share some of the views recognizing that spreads are at high levels, and the risk is more asymmetric. jonath

now, some of you may be aware that in 2016 jeffrey goldberg published a highly influential, in my view not particularly good, article called the obama doctrine in the atlantic monthly. got a big play everywhere. he calls it then the obama doctrine. there was no such thing as the obama doctrine. it doesn't exist. obama simply updated the bush doctrine. he didn't change it. this is as good an argument as i can find to show the power of ideas. i'll give you just two examples of this during the obama years. first, the endless decision making he had to go through during 2009 to decide whether to surge in afghanistan or not. and then he decided to do so. after he said he'd spent all his time reading about vietnam. he didn't read about vietnam. i'm sure he didn't read about vietnam. what he read were the rand reports and general david petraeus' book awful book called counterinsurgency: a manual, all of which were nation and state-building devices which either glibly passed over vietnam or just talked about vietnam without coming to any real conclusions. those also are available online for fre

with us to discuss our rick reader, jeffrey rosenberg, and pablo goldberg.ng about the return of volatility. equity, fixed income, the lot, does that make a risky environment? >> i am getting in the habit of disagreeing with your premises. jonathan: i throw a premise. >> your premise is everything is rich. we are on the fixed income side. on the fixed income side it is not so much about rich or cheap. it is about are you pay for the risk -- paid for the risk? you don't get the outside, and you get a lot more downside risk. on equities, valuations change. we think equity valuations are better outside of the u.s.. the key differential is you have upside as similar to the amounts of downside you are taking. in fixed income, you don't get that. that is part of what you're hearing from the caution. spreads are at high levels, and the risk is more asymmetric. european credit is absolutely rich. it is highly affected by central bank behavior. you have negative interest rates forcing people into underwriting levels that are not economic conomic you have a non-e driv

in his interview with jeffrey goldberg and on the obama doctrine, he discussed how impressed he was with the israelis that they had learned to live with terrorism. we have to live with terrorism like it is the weather. meanwhile, president obama is in paris signing the completely meaningless climate accord which is unenforceable, -- [booing] unenforceable and nonbinding except the calls for the united states and some of the other leading economies of the world to transfer $100 thirdn a year to the world. so, we are paying the chinese on a dubious claim that this is actually going to change the weather. we have to live with like weather but we are actually going to change the weather. what is the practical outcome of this philosophy? the practical outcome of this philosophy is that france is becoming a country without jews. we hear "never again" rhetoric from the obama administration frenchsee that daily the jews are living. some are going to london, some are come to the united states. i was just in israel which is growing faster than many parts of the country takes to the jews. of french

in his interview with jeffrey goldberg and on the obama doctrine, he discussed how impressed he was with israelis that they had learned to live with terrorism. we have to live with terrorism like it is the weather. meanwhile, president obama is in paris signing the completely meaningless climate accord which is unenforceable, -- [booing] unenforceable and nonbinding except the calls for the united states and some of the other leading economies of the world to transfer $100 thirdn a year to the world. so, we are paying the chinese on a dubious claim that this is actually going to change the weather. we have to live with like weather but we are actually going to change the weather. what is the practical outcome of this philosophy? the practical outcome of this philosophy is that france is becoming a country without jews. we hear "never again" rhetoric from the obama administration frenchsee that daily the jews are living. some are going to london, some are come to the united states. i was just in israel which is growing faster than many parts of the country takes to the jews. of french we