. >> brennan: we turn now to some political analysis from our panel, jeffrey goldberg is the editor ofhe chief in the atlantic. leslie sanchez is a cbs news political contributor. jamal simmons is the host on hill tv and a cbs news political contributor, and jerry sy is the executive "wall street journal" editor. way on the get to the numbers, but i think we need to digest some of what we just heard. jeffrey, the chinese ambassador at the tail end of our interview said people in shin jiang china are very happy. to be clear, the u.s. government says there are between one and three million muslim minorities in camps. the pentagon called them concentration camps. >> right. >> brennan: how do we knowing that kind of denial of what is established fact, how do we understand everything he told us? >> well, what you have to understand is that the chinese government is lying about the nature of what's happening in these camps. when you take between one and three million people of a particular ethnic group against their will and concentrate them in prison camps for reeducation, it seems like fai

jeffrey goldberg of the atlantic once famously called mark the most important journalist in washington for his ability to make his profile subjects look like rock stars on one hand and to make others look like complete idiots. mark has been a journalist for 30 years and also has written several books including the best-selling, this town. a syrian examination of washington's local class in his most recent, the big game about the most powerful people in the national football league. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming bob garfield. >> hello everyone. thank you for being here. i guess i'll start. i am the guy interviewing you. hello, everybody. thank you for being here. it is a delight to see you all here. i say that respectively. i have no idea how this is going to go. >> bob has written a book. he has actually written a manifesto. it is called, "american manifesto" and if anyone was looking for a good manifesto to become of this is your thing. now, i want to actually start with something because come as a kind of thing that people that is usually a telltale sign that the

jeffrey goldberg of the atlantic once famously told mark the most important journalist in washington for his ability to make his profile subjects look like rock stars on the one hand and make others look like complete idiots. mark has been a journalist for 30 years and has been several books including the best-selling this town, a searing examination of washington, and his most recent, the big game, about the most powerful in the national football league. please join me in welcoming bob garfield and mark leibovich. [applause] >> a non-alcoholic. >> i'm not going to answer that question. hi, bob, hi, everyone. thanks for being here. should i start? i guess i will start. i'm the guy interviewing. >> i, thank you for being here. i have no idea how this is going to play. >> bob has written a book, actually a manifesto. it is called "american manifesto: saving democracy from villains, vandals, and ourselves". this is your thing. i want to start with something because it is the kind of thing that is usually a telltale sign the guy asking the question didn't read the book but i did read the

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