jeffrey goldberg, a couple of things. as we're, as everybody is looking for answers and trying to get numbers on masks and supplies getting to hospitals and hot spots around the country, and gauge how many cases, the bottom line here is that the one thing that works is the one thing that's being put upon the american people. that is this physical distancing, social distancing. it is being proven to have worked in california. the governor of california clearly listened to top scientists. we know for a fact he was on the phone with top health policy experts and decided to shut down the state and certain cities the earlie earliest, and the numbers are bearing that out. we have hot spots in these horrific situations in places like new york city right now. the only solution right now, the only solution that we have on the horizon is social distancing. isn't the issue right now, as the economy crumbles and america is being brought to its knees, what is the timeline for real testing across the board, and what is the time liline

jeffrey goldberg? >> i think we lost jeffrey go goldbe goldberg. i don't think we can hear us.asie, i'll try you on this one. this is the president. we know we'll hear today, guidelines he believes some parts of the country, some states, some communities can open up. he says he's identified places where it will be safe. hard to know what's going to happen there, but a lot of public health officials believe it could lead to the introduction and spread of coronavirus into those places. >> willie, we should underscore, too, again, that despite his repeated claims that he as quote, unquote, total authority, the end of the day, this is not the president's all call. this is the call of the governors and mayors, the ones wh had to put these restrictions into place in the first place, to tell residents to stay home. they are ultimately the ones who are responsible for those decisions, and they're the ones that are going to have to roll them back. now, that said, how the president handles this, what he says publicly, is going to go a long way toward dictating the behavior of a lot of pe