my friend jeffrey goldburg said on cnn, you will be ashamed if something happened to it.[laughs] >> that's the way it was interpreted. i think that there are elements in the world in europe who see that and see daylight and are encouraged. they are encouraged to go to the criminal court of justice. the french have been encouraged to perhaps put a security council resolution that will not be in israel advantage. that's like sering daylight. don is one of my heros. >> there is. get the book. i haven't read it yet. thank you for as always a wonder talk and really, really important insights, and i haven't read the last four pages with the recommendations, but my question is can they possibly happen, whatever they are, with mr. yaho and i forget who our embassador is, before them in place? >> i won't try to belittle the question. i don't have to dodge questions. >> that's why i asked you. >> the answer is it won't be easy. i think it's the iran agreement side. if i was in the iranian side i would not sign it because it has been demonstrated to them that the longer the holdout

he is interviewed by jeffrey goldburg, it's 20 minutes. >> hi, good afternoon.ng to jump right into a conversation about water and luckily we have the water gurue with us, david wagner, wagner and ball. most people, here, know him -- probably know him well so i don't need to introduce very much. why don't we just go right at an issue or subject that you've been dealing with and talking about with the city for many years, now. the way in which the netherlands, amsterdam and netherlands has managed to live with water and the way in which you can contrast that. i was hoping you could spend a minute or two explaining to us what the dutch did right. if new orleans had done over the proceeding decades, if new orleans had done what the dutch had done, would katrina had done what it did? >> that would go to the river if you talk about what the dutch would have done and would have warded off katrina. it would have been a national priority, not a local priority. >> why is it a national priority in the netherlands? >> half of this country is below sea level. as this has de